Query on Current Lead Time for CEng Application Assessments

I have two mentees who are in the process of applying for CEng registration. They submitted their applications a couple of months ago, but the assessments have not yet been carried out. Could you please advise on the current lead time for CEng application assessments? Many Thanks.

  • I feel for you Adrian, that timeline looks pretty awful. Personally I am now a year into my CEng application with no idea when a PRI will happen, and I too am questioning whether this is the Institution for me.

  • Hi James ! Have you got an answer so far? i submitted my application late october 2024.

  • Thanks  . That's an awesome elaboration I have seen. Much appreciaed for your time and efforts in bring the backend efforts to the forefront. 

  • Hello  

    Fells good to see that some people are willing to help regardless of how busy they might be.

    I would like to ask you something about my Ceng application, I couldn't find someone to help me so far but I would appreciate your help and guidance.

    I would like to connect in private somehow if you don't mind and thanks to the community engx that I could find you here.

    Kindest regards 

  • Hi Ginel,

    I've accepted your connection so we can see if there's any quick answer I can give.

    Thanks,

    Andy

  • This thread is getting old now, but if it helps, I am seeing applications that have had their interview  and are in the final approval stage.  A month or so ago I was seeing some that had waited a year between assessment and interview, Lately the longest has been 9 months and many much less.  So the backlog is coming down.

  • Good Evening,

    Sorry about the delay.

    On the surface, it's a service, a form, and a fee, a booking system, a process that can be analysed, management consultants often study processes and try to streamline them.

    However Eddy, PRIs rely entirely on matching engineering peers, <unpaid> volunteers who donate their time, skills and sometimes, contemplation over a recommendation. There is a lot more involved than a tick list, or there should be.

    Our latest challenge is AI for the applications, meaning the PRI is more important than ever for establishing <authenticity> which again, needs special skills.

    It's only a personal view, but I think PRIs in particular attracts a limited range of personality types making volunteers harder to find. Similarly, I think there's been a realisation that career and socio-economic pressures are making volunteers harder to find, book for a PRI, fulfill a PRI on the day - and retain once training has been invested by the IET.

    At the same time, a volunteer Interviewer is extremely accountable and has just as many codes and guides to comply with as a staff member doing the same task.

    Incidentally I've done over 400 PRIs for the IET, about 800 overall.

    I hope you get your PRI soon, and that this shines light on the invisible Interviewers and Assessors.

    Regarding fees for a service, and why the delay, it's worth looking up Baumol's (economic) Disease.

    In essence, a haircut takes the same time and essential equipment as it did 50 years ago, but the cost has risen ten-fold and most hairdressers are not seeing a big raise. Think of them like the volunteers.

    Why is this ? Because the SURROUNDING costs - insurance, buildings and location costs, competitive appeal, advertising, codes, regulations, debt and energy costs, etc. have loaded big premiums onto the skilled human labour, and it's hard to replace with the (eg. AI, automation) efficiencies elsewhere in the economy.   

    Regards

    Chris