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UK government’s migration bill will hit many industries: including manufacturing.

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  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    won't hit the manufacturing of steel will it?

    what a load of rubbish, will not sign

     £35 K is in the range of unskilled and semi-skilled workers; why do we want a system in which we import low-skill low wage workers? Of course industry won't agree with the bill, industry wants cheap, foreign, pre-trained, pre-educated labour. All the costs of education are borne by the worker's home country; whereupon the worker leaves; causing a brain drain in their home country and wage deflation where they move.


    what the government should be is introducing a skills-based points system for everybody wishing to come here and work
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    won't hit the manufacturing of steel will it?

    what a load of rubbish, will not sign

     £35 K is in the range of unskilled and semi-skilled workers; why do we want a system in which we import low-skill low wage workers? Of course industry won't agree with the bill, industry wants cheap, foreign, pre-trained, pre-educated labour. All the costs of education are borne by the worker's home country; whereupon the worker leaves; causing a brain drain in their home country and wage deflation where they move.


    what the government should be is introducing a skills-based points system for everybody wishing to come here and work
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    won't hit the manufacturing of steel will it?

    what a load of rubbish, will not sign

     £35 K is in the range of unskilled and semi-skilled workers; why do we want a system in which we import low-skill low wage workers? Of course industry won't agree with the bill, industry wants cheap, foreign, pre-trained, pre-educated labour. All the costs of education are borne by the worker's home country; whereupon the worker leaves; causing a brain drain in their home country and wage deflation where they move.


    what the government should be is introducing a skills-based points system for everybody wishing to come here and work
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    won't hit the manufacturing of steel will it?

    what a load of rubbish, will not sign

     £35 K is in the range of unskilled and semi-skilled workers; why do we want a system in which we import low-skill low wage workers? Of course industry won't agree with the bill, industry wants cheap, foreign, pre-trained, pre-educated labour. All the costs of education are borne by the worker's home country; whereupon the worker leaves; causing a brain drain in their home country and wage deflation where they move.


    what the government should be is introducing a skills-based points system for everybody wishing to come here and work
  • A "skills shortage" generally turns out to mean "we don't want to pay to train people, we would rather bring in cheap labour from overseas".
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    0 Former Community Member
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  • We have a vicious circle in this country where many employers don't want to train staff - they just want to poach fully trained staff from elsewhere.  The trouble is that the other employers now don't want to train people either, because all their best trained staff will be poached by others.


    The only "solution" offered to this problem is just to poach more staff from overseas.  They are cheaper, which the employers love, and the skills shortage is now somebody else's problem in another country.


    Of course, wage deflation in the most skilled industries is just going to discourage new people from entering them, making the problem worse.  We need solutions, not quick fixes at somebody else's expense.
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    Simon,


    nail on the head.


    Britain did not have a drastic "skills shortage" in manufacturing when industry trained 16 year-olds through apprentice schemes.




    why has this "skills shortage" coincided with the greatest ever number of workers coming to this country? Coincided with what is effectively an open-border policy? Is it because people are coming here to work for low wages in low skilled jobs and that employers want to drive down wages in skilled work even further: i.e. get a foreigner to work for less than £35K in what should be a job paying more than that.



    yeah, don't sign this rubbish petition - how on earth is it going to help the young people of Britain here entering the workplace?





  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    Simon,


    nail on the head.


    Britain did not have a drastic "skills shortage" in manufacturing when industry trained 16 year-olds through apprentice schemes.




    why has this "skills shortage" coincided with the greatest ever number of workers coming to this country? Coincided with what is effectively an open-border policy? Is it because people are coming here to work for low wages in low skilled jobs and that employers want to drive down wages in skilled work even further: i.e. get a foreigner to work for less than £35K in what should be a job paying more than that.



    yeah, don't sign this rubbish petition - how on earth is it going to help the young people of Britain here entering the workplace?





  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member in reply to gkenyon
    Simon,


    nail on the head.


    Britain did not have a drastic "skills shortage" in manufacturing when industry trained 16 year-olds through apprentice schemes.




    why has this "skills shortage" coincided with the greatest ever number of workers coming to this country? Coincided with what is effectively an open-border policy? Is it because people are coming here to work for low wages in low skilled jobs and that employers want to drive down wages in skilled work even further: i.e. get a foreigner to work for less than £35K in what should be a job paying more than that.



    yeah, don't sign this rubbish petition - how on earth is it going to help the young people of Britain here entering the workplace?