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60 Amp Junction Box.

Mornin' All,

                      I came upon a burnt out terminal on a Crabtree ceiling 50 Amp. shower cord switch yesterday. The cables had become so hot after 3 years of use that the line P.V.C. had completely fallen off the conductor and had left a horrible black smelly sticky mess.


I had to replace the shower cord switch, but the damaged cable was then too short after removing the softened copper and damaged insulation.


So I had to make a trap in the room upstairs, which turned out to be wooden boards over other wooden boards to access the cable below with a view to lengthening one cable. I used a new 60 Amp junction box as it allows two large conductors to overlap and be secured by 4 screws. It is solid and of good quality.


It is this item.....

https://www.toolstation.com/60a-junction-box/p98775?store=N2&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIufLP1ZD25gIVybTtCh2YWAeiEAQYASABEgJZkvD_BwE


Z.

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    Sparkingchip:

    How much free space is there inside a correctly crimp terminal for solder?


    Andy B 




    The crimp lug can be partially crimped to hold it onto the conductor and the solder wire fed in through the small breather hole found in many lugs near to the ring. Pre-fluxing is possible.


    Z.


     




    I would suggest that you have a read of BS7609, as doing what you suggest would not give a satisfactory joint.


  • alanblaby:




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    Sparkingchip:

    How much free space is there inside a correctly crimp terminal for solder?


    Andy B 




    The crimp lug can be partially crimped to hold it onto the conductor and the solder wire fed in through the small breather hole found in many lugs near to the ring. Pre-fluxing is possible.


    Z.


     




    I would suggest that you have a read of BS7609, as doing what you suggest would not give a satisfactory joint.


     




    This sort of thing seems to work for those over the pond. The terminal lug is filled with solder.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9SjG5fiyo


    Z.



  • Do not confuse a crimp lug with a solder lug - you can use one as the other, in that you can solder wire into an oversized crimp lug,  though some solder lugs are wrap round and  could never be crimped, but you should not really mix the techniques.

    There are some rather nice solder paste filled connection tubes that can be used with a very hot heat gun. this sort of thing  They are a step up on twisting the wires with a swizzle of solder wire inside some aluminium foil and heating it with your lighter, as the heat-shrink insulation is part of the design.


    Better on PTFE wire than PVC or polythene, which tend to melt and run away from the heat, so probably better for aircraft repairs than domestic wiring.


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  • alanblaby:




    Zoomup:




    Sparkingchip:

    How much free space is there inside a correctly crimp terminal for solder?


    Andy B 




    The crimp lug can be partially crimped to hold it onto the conductor and the solder wire fed in through the small breather hole found in many lugs near to the ring. Pre-fluxing is possible.


    Z.


     




    I would suggest that you have a read of BS7609, as doing what you suggest would not give a satisfactory joint.


     




     

    If the crimped termination is gas tight, how can you run any solder into it?


    Andy B

  • The cable ends are not fluxed



    No need - the solder contains flux (rosin).

      - Andy.