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Electricians' Earnings. Is it Really So?

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Electricians. We are just so well off.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-7653631/Are-wrong-job-Electricians-never-earned-make-70k-year.html


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    A friend of mine is Business Analyst and earns around £650 a day for what she does (yes there is no decimal point in there...) So immediately you think she must be rolling in it... ?


    However she  works on contract so can have no work for many months at a time without any pay at all.  It all evens itself out over the year.


    Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that a self employed Electrician won't be working 7 hours a day 5 days a week for the whole year so simply multiplying up the hourly rate will not give you a true representation of their annual salary. 

     

    it is my charging rate not my earning rate"



    ebee‍ - nicely put ?
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    There has also been a bit of a boom in the last 5 or 6 years of self deployed fitness coaches and trainers.
    My brothers girlfriend used to work in our local gym as a full time trainer employed by the gym. Her salary was around £18k/
    She left and went self employed and has her own clients she trains at home or sometimes hires a gym for the day.
    Her rate is £65 per hour. She reckons she took about £50k in her first full year but does work incredibly hard and rarely takes a day off.
    But has noticed the local area is getting booged down with people now becoming self deployed trainers and some offering a lower fee.
    Another race to the bottom possibly 
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    In amongst all this you don’t have to forget how human nature affects things when people are on piecework 


    Some guys If paid more do less work.


    Back in the 80’s and I guess now as well some guys I worked with, particularly plumbers, set a target of how much they wanted to earn then went home. Some of the plumbers aimed to start on  Monday morning and finish Thursday lunchtime having hit their target earnings.


    Do whilst looking at the total amount some people have earns you need to consider that other people may have much better lifestyles, you also need to remember that as they are working less hours they are not so physically and mentally stressed resulting in them earning more per hour than those who actually go home with more money in their pay packet.


    Andy B.
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    This raises the extremely important issue of “productivity”.  So for Electricians and other skilled trades, my previous company operated a productivity bonus scheme, offering an additional percentage of the basic earnings rate. The company employed a “Work Study Engineer” and “Targetter Listers” to set the targets. There were problems , but the occasional attempts to ditch it, or even to ditch the direct employment model, rather than agency/ "labour only”, always ended in the conclusion that it was a benefit overall.  The culture and traditions of the company as somewhat paternalistic were also a contributory factor, but it got a loyal and motivated workforce in return.


    In the 1970s, I was part of a similar scheme for a major nationalised industry, which simply increased earnings, without having a meaningful impact on productivity.  The bonus was eventually consolidated into base earnings and the “carrot” became overtime, premium time and other “allowances”. All were powerfully unionised, so it was much easier to give than to take anything away.  This isn’t unique to “blue-collar” employees or trades unions, plenty of “prestigious professions” run something of a “closed shop”.     


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    sadly the daily mail like to give their readers something to make them whinge and nothing makes your average dm reader whinge more than thinking some spark or another trades person is earning more than them......
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    #Zoomup 


    Did you spot This discussion on MumsNet?


    Andy B

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