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ever seen a blown cut-out fuse?

Perhaps I've had a sheltered upbringing, but it's occurred to me that I've never encountered a blown cut-out fuse (e.g. a BS1361 BS88-3). So have any of you seen one? How rare are they? Any interesting or salutatory tales to tell?
  • Once,


    Lightning strike on a cottage I stayed at In NW Scotland.


    All that was left of the cut out and fuse was powder and scorch marks.


    Regards

    Simon

  • Kelly Marie:

    Hi  Warren I looked at the lights around 22:30 last nite and noticed not a flicker not even the tiniest amount of dimming I guess economy 7 isn't popular round here!



    Hi Kelly


    Guess that's a possibility. In the past I've lived in the city and a large village (3 doors down from the substation), and at both places the lights dipped noticeably at 22:30. Now I live in a rural location, where there's no mains gas. There are quite a few old folk in the village who've been here since the dawn of time, and must have had storage heating installed when it was on offer from the then area boards. At 22:30 the lights practically go out. You can set your watch by it!


    This is one of the drawbacks with the radio teleswitch - they nearly all switch on at the same time, when they receive the timing pulse. The older mechanical timeswitches (manually wound, motor maintained) had a slight margin of error, in that the timing depended on the meter man's watch and his accuracy in setting the dial. This gave a few minutes' discrepancy between individual households E7 switching in, so the volt drop wasn't quite as obvious.
  • Even with radio teleswitches, start times for economy 7 or similar off peak tariffs are somewhat staggered. Mine runs from midnight until 01-00, then full price from 01-00 until 02-00, then off peak again from 02-00 until 08-00.

    My neighbours time are from 01-00 until 08-00. Another neighbour is from 23-00 until 06-00.


    Staggering the "off" times is of much lesser importance than the "on" times. Considerable load is connected at the commencement of the off peak tariff, but relatively little is disconnected at the end of the allotted time.

    A lot of the load is thermal storage space heaters and hot water tanks, these have their own thermostats which are often satisfied before the end of off peak hours. Likewise charging of EVs, most will be "full" before end of the off peak hours.
  • I was told a story about a time when a cut-out fuse blew then the homeowner removed the fuse carrier and inserted a trowel across the contacts of the service head. It arced and the heat spot welded the trowel to the contacts.
  • Yes, we saw one a couple of months ago, caused by a builder not understanding that an RCD, despite being labelled '40A, 30mA' is does NOT contain overcurrent protection, basically leaving the shower protected by the 60 amp BS1361 in the service head.


    Also being a builder, he hadn't torqued the terminals.  The result was inevitable... the terminal slowly charred, went higher resistance, got hotter still.. and over the course of 2 days, burned itself clear, whereupon it pressed the now bare live load wire into the earth sleeving.


    Apparently the bang was loud enough to be heard from the shower (which was in use at the time). Customer called us out, we were able to fix the issue with a neat 18th edition compliant 2 way board with main RCD while awaiting the DNO's arrival (tails dead of course, due to the fuse failure)  Once again, SSE impressed with the speed of their response, despite knowing it wasn't an emergency.
  • Drinking a cup of tea, Ipad in hand, suddenly I have a life size image of one of your thumbs and some of your fingers next to mine.


    I have given mine a scrub up having finished work, otherwise very similar.


     Andy B.