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Electrical Safety First Warning.

Don't overload sockets and extension leads.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8174165/People-working-home-told-pay-extra-attention-electrical-safety.html


Z.

  • Would you hand out the same message if we were being bombed? 




    I am sure that those in authority would say "take precautions and be sensible to ensure safety in all aspects of life during times of crisis." We don't want home fires or electrics shocks when the emergency services are working to full capacity and people are trapped at home using many electrical appliances. You know it makes sense.


    Z.


     

  • During the last war when we WERE being bombed, warning were issued about the perils of improvised electricity supplies to domestic air raid shelters.

    Extra low voltage from dry cells, vehicle batteries, or "other accumulators" was suggested for lighting. And a paraffin stove or blankets instead of electric heating. Or alternatively mains electricity if installed by an experienced electrician.


    An electric shock to earth would be very dangerous in a shelter.
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    broadgage:

    An electric shock to earth would be very dangerous in a shelter.




     

    Sure - but not as dangerous as the Luftwaffe doing it's level best to flatten or burn out the place (or both)


    It all becomes relative, I guess  - advising occupants to rough it was helpful in conserving fuel and power for munitions and other war materiel


    When it's been your nth time in the cold and dark that month and you still have to get to a factory tomorrow morning to make Spitfires then running an extension lead doesn't seem all that risky- and we didn't (and still don't) lose that many souls due to electrical incidents.


    Regards


    OMS




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    davezawadi:

    Why are you only so suspicious of mains extensions and adapters Z, there is no extra danger now is there, the same could be said at any time? This kind of thing simply raises stress unnecessarily, in stressful times due to other factors. Would you hand out the same message if we were being bombed? The current situation is no less serious. The news media are the same, overall death rates have changed very little indeed, and the reporting requirements now lead to the number of CoVid-19 assisted deaths being given by the news. How many flu assisted deaths are there? They are reported as pneumonia or heart failure or stroke or anything else.







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    Rob


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    broadgage:

    An electric shock to earth would be very dang





    When it's been your nth time in the cold and dark that month and you still have to get to a factory tomorrow morning to make Spitfires then running an extension lead doesn't seem all that risky- and we didn't (and still don't) lose that many souls due to electrical incidents.





     

     




    You don't need an enemy like the Luftwaffe to cause damage and mayhem, and risk lives and destroy homes....just leave an electrical appliance plugged in, like a washing machine or tumble drier.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43056887


    Z.


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    . . . You don't need an enemy like the Luftwaffe to cause damage and mayhem, and risk lives and destroy homes....just leave an electrical appliance plugged in . . . 




    Get a grip of reality! Trivialising the devastation of a war time bombing raid is . . . well.. . . words fail me. 


    Alan. 

  • A proper extension lead to a domestic air raid shelter would be acceptable in wartime, and arguably acceptable even in peacetime if in good condition and used sensibly.

    The concern during the last war was bits of twin lamp flex, possibly with improvised joints, being used to supply a metal framed heater, in a metal structure that was well earthed fortuitously by circumstances.


    A late relative of mine owned an electrical shop during the war, and offered for sale "safe shelter lighting outfits" one type used four large dry cells and a pendant light with two bulbs, 40ma for prolonged minimum lighting and maximum battery life, and 300ma for a brighter light that still gave 100 hours service from the dry cells.

    Another outfit used a small transformer located in the house, and a 6 volt bulb.
  • I agree with Alan. However remember that electrical installations were very different in domestic property before the war (WW2). There was no T&E, No CPCs. Little power socket installation, and cables was not sold by the local shop. My 30s house had singles in wooden capping, no Earthing and as far as I can see only 1 power socket. "Improvised" did not mean a nice extension from B&Q but probably bare wires on insulators (see some of the wartime air raid pictures from large tube ones). The Germans were much more dangerous than a bit of electricity. The attitude to risk was completely different too, we did not have a "wet" BBC to start with!
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    Zoomup:




    OMS:




    broadgage:

    An electric shock to earth would be very dang



    When it's been your nth time in the cold and dark that month and you still have to get to a factory tomorrow morning to make Spitfires then running an extension lead doesn't seem all that risky- and we didn't (and still don't) lose that many souls due to electrical incidents.

     


    You don't need an enemy like the Luftwaffe to cause damage and mayhem, and risk lives and destroy homes....just leave an electrical appliance plugged in, like a washing machine or tumble drier.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43056887


    Z.




    You really are an total ***, Z


    Do you really think the occasional tumble drier getting a bit smoky because the lint filter is never cleaned out by the hard of thinking  is in any way comparable to a concerted air attack on civilians


    Take a google for "Sarajevo Generators" to understand how adaptable people are when it comes to providing a basic level of infrastructure - in case you missed it, they used to float the washing machine on a raft in the river to generate a basic level of power - all the whilst under artillery bombardment and snipers popping anyone who moved. They worked well, and were actually reasonably safe


    I'm pretty sure we could find similar contraptions in Syria, Yemen etc


    Do you actually understand the concept of risk ?


    OMS




     



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    broadgage:

    A proper extension lead to a domestic air raid shelter would be acceptable in wartime, and arguably acceptable even in peacetime if in good condition and used sensibly.

    The concern during the last war was bits of twin lamp flex, possibly with improvised joints, being used to supply a metal framed heater, in a metal structure that was well earthed fortuitously by circumstances.


     




     

    Where I grew up, there were plenty of old Anderson shelters and a whole load of improvised shelters around - my neighbour had one suppled by a bit of buried lead sheathed "7/0.29" terminated into a metal tobacco tin complete with scruits to connect to a bit of colliery "shot wire" feeding 2 pendant lights an a 15A round pin socket screwed to a bit of board. It was like that into the eighties. The lead sheathed cable was basically just laid under a flagstone in the back yard


    It  was also common to find electric heaters formed by hand winding an element onto a ceramic former and mounted into a good quality turkey roasting tin to act as a reflector  - most were unguarded and friction fitted into a bit of hardboard (usually papered in anaglypta) fitted into the bedroom grate - usually where the old chap was probably suffering from a mining induced lung disease (eg, we put a heater in the bedroom grate, cos Bamps has got the dust)


    The house I grew up in had a batten holder screwed through the lid of a "Krunchie" pickle jar to a suitable overhang or soffit - connect up, insert lamp and screw on pickle jar for an effective outside light - it was there until I rewired the house during my apprenticeship


    Regards


    OMS