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Raising the game.

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  • Dog whistle!

    Can we not just get used to the fact that the DNOs will find, via their immense financial and political clout, that they will continue to find every way possible to negate their responsibilities for the costs associated with requisite continuous upgrades and improvements for their low voltage networks, and instead, lobby the likes of BEAMA, JPEL and CENLEC to enact wiring regulation requirements upon us via BS7671 in order to compensate for their obvious shortcomings.

    Their shareholders of course, will be endlessly happy.

    Let us have a look at progress thus far.

    Cmin - introduced because they cannot stabilize the voltages at their end, so we have to compensate via BS7671 by installing larger than necessary cables.

    Surge protection - again, they refuse to spend money upon stabilizing their supplies and making them robust enough to withstand and network surges at the origins.

    The latest snake oil - not to be entirely blamed upon the suppliers but more of a hell of a expensive and dubious solution to a problem which does not exist in reality.


    Time to suck it up - they are getting away with it and I have no idea what we can do to counter this nonsense.
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    One of the other forum members is stripping out lead twin cable with core tape declaring: British Insulated Callenders Cables Ltd Helsby and Leigh. 

    Does this live DNO distribution cable trump it?



    Quite possibly Andy as BICC was formed on 31 May 1945. There is a nameplate at the mansion house incomer declaring installation by Penny and Porter of IIRC Norfolk dated 1949.


    Whilst my stripped out cable comes from the detached (very) stable block, I believe Penny and Porter adopted some of the even earlier cable installation from 1932 evidenced by a newspaper page scrumpled up behind some re-plastering associated with the installation of wall lights (some work habits never change!) and finding a wooden drum left in an attic void with a quality control date stamp of 1932.


    From this earlier 1932 install I've salvaged some lead cable that has just CALLENDER LONDON ENGLAND 250 VOLT MONAZO (REGD) which despite being older, actually has tinned earth conductor sandwiched between the rubber cores but only in fortuitous contact with the lead sheath when formed round bends.


    Now I'm left with what to do with a lot of lengths of lead cable that had not been clipped but laid in a roof void which would pass as being new as I carefully wound back into coils............ Anyone doing some retro work?!!!!!!


    Regards


    BOD
  • Ah yes, one of the great Electricity Boards service heads, Henley, plastic, and that twin cable, overhead most likely, 70amp, last for years, unless one of the amateur "electricians" (many on this forum, as we have seen this week) interfere with it.


    Regards, UKPN.Zap