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Rolling partial I&T or sampling?

This subject came up in the recent thread about the church with a poor EICR. It was suggested that inspecting and testing ¼ of the installation every 4th year might be preferable to testing 100% every 4 or 5 years. I suggest that this is a misunderstanding of the principal of sampling.


The principle of sampling is that if inspection or testing of 20% of an installation reveals no defects, it may be inferred that the other 80% is in a similar condition. A statistician could calculate the degree of confidence of the assumption. The sample must be identified in advance and may be selected randomly, or systematically - say every 5th circuit, or every 5th socket. What is not permissible is to sample a sample, so it would be either 100% of sockets on every 5th circuit, or 20% of sockets on all circuits. If the sample has not been selected randomly, the same one should not be used repeatedly - so circuits 1, 6, 11, etc. on one occasion and 2, 7, 12, etc. on the next. Self evidently, the method of sample selection must be recorded on the EICR so that the next inspector may select a different sample.


If the sampled circuits (or sockets, or what have you) give cause for concern, the sample size may be increased: the purpose of this is to increase the level of confidence, not to find more defects.


If the sampled inspection and testing is satisfactory, the EICR is signed off and the normal inspection interval is recommended. It should not be reduced on account of the sampling. To test 20% every year is not sampling because in fact the whole installation is tested every 5 years and some of it, e.g. the origin and main panel, ends up being tested 5 times in 5 years.


Now I stand by to be shot down in flames!
  • And of course if the retest period is ten years then the percentage can be reduced accordingly. 


    Andy B
  • You inspect and test all the circuits on a board. You sample inspect a number of accessories on each circuit. Say 20% of accessories on each circuit. So removing and inspecting behind 20% of sockets and light switches.


    You don't sample a number of circuits as a lot of scammers do.


    Testing is different to inspection. Inspection is not an incidental process to testing, more the other way around. See Chapter 65.


    I recommend sample testing 20% of light fittings for earth continuity and lop testing the extremities of lighting and radial sockets. A caveat to this is always test all wall lights as installers often fail to earth these. Nothing difficult plug a socket adapter in to a socket outlet you have already loop tested and long lead with a continuity tester and have a quick dab around all the wall lights. Do the same for switch rooms and plant rooms an easy quick test that will detect unearthed equipment and metal conduits and trunking. 


    As I have already said my standard spec. describes the inspections and sample rates, and also the tests to be applied and sample rates.
  • Back in the olden days (1970s) the local Electric board would send one of their inspectiotin dept to connect tails after a rewire. The only cert they wanted off you was one that said "I accept responsibillity for ..............." . they`d visual the CU, perhaps open up the "nearest switch and perhaps a socket" then Ins res globally and ring continuity. The keener ones might walk into another room or two for a quick peek.If they connected it meant it PASSED.

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    Ohh and they`d Ze their incommer


    That was Norweb & also similar at YEB
  • Chris Pearson:
    Sparkingchip:

    Here’s a quote for you to consider:


    “Our software performs all of the difficult and time consuming compliance checks. A full EICR which used to take 30 minutes, now takes seconds.”


    It looks like a handy package, but it seems to be no more than an Excel spreadsheet.






    I thought most people only spent thirty seconds reviewing an EICR, simply looking for the words “safe to use” or “satisfactory”.



  • You inspect and test all the circuits on a board. You sample inspect a number of accessories on each circuit. Say 20% of accessories on each circuit. So removing and inspecting behind 20% of sockets and light switches.



    For 20 % sampling to provide a result you have a reasonable confidence in, you need a suitably large "sampling population" (between 100 and 300 "test points" - in this case perhaps total number of accessories in the installation).


    If the population size is less than 50, to get a reasonable confidence in the result, you need to check 100 % !


    Have a play with the numbers (I know this is aimed at "surveys", but it's the same maths): https://www.surveysystem.com/sscalce.htm




  • Nice one Graham, I shall read that later