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HELP - Part P qualifications- is there a standard, or do they just make it up?

Dave Thomas
My Question: is there a prescribed standard list of requirements for part p registration, or do the governing bodies just put up what they want?

I was registered for part p for 14 years, it ran out when I started doing up my own house and settled for small jobs only for a couple of years.

I came to the trade after 20 years general building, did my 16th then the test and inspection course. Then came part p and I enquired about the need to do further courses. I was told that the then C&G 2400 Design and Verification course (which i was doing at the time) would count as a professional qualification and avoid any further need to take technical assessments etc. Well NAPIT have so far been appalling: sat on my application for over 6 weeks (and the money) and they're now saying I'm not qualified and will need to sit an additional course of theirs, some sort of computer based 30 hours learning followed by an exam and  a practical: I can't sit it till December, but naturally i need to pay now ( before the last places disappear, I've heard that somewhere before!). Apparently this is designed for people just like me, but I wonder if I'm being sold a load of old s**t:? I have nothing against relevant training but seriously what can 30 hours of online learning and a test add to a practising electrician who's been working to part p since 2004 and assessed annually, and has never actually stopped working to the regs: I just haven't done any part p jobs. Part p is just the regs anyway, only registering notifiable work, the standard is the same. And yes done the 18th, January last year. Now I look, it appears that the NICIEC and elecsa have slightly different entry requirements- thought we all worked to a standard, and anyway this shower now have my money! Any advice? Anyone else had to do this?   HELP
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    My 16th edition and I&T courses were both ten week courses taking a term of evening classes each, so I spent six months getting those two qualifications.


    There was a smart #### who was trying to do both at the same time by attending two different colleges of two different evenings, he failed miserably.


    Everything seems to fast tracked now when it comes to getting a trade qualification with the pay us and you’ll get your qualifications in a day or so. Which doesn’t actually help a lot of people as they are not taking everything in. You are actually trying to get what I spent three years training for in a few days.


     Andy B.
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    Absolutely JP! However, I assumed from the OP that Dave was operating as a one-man band. That being the case, if he is personally undertaking electrical installation work, it is not unreasonable that the CPS should require him to be a competent electrician. That might not be the way it is, I am just giving my opinion on how I think it should be.
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    Sparkingchip:

    Everything seems to fast tracked now when it comes to getting a trade qualification with the pay us and you’ll get your qualifications in a day or so. Which doesn’t actually help a lot of people as they are not taking everything in. You are actually trying to get what I spent three years training for in a few days.


     Andy B.


    That is right on the money Andy! This is why the Experienced Worker Qualification  is only available to those who can demonstrate at least 5 years of experience working in the trade. It is not designed for new entrants of for folk who have not been practicing electrical installation skills for the minimum 5 year period. 


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    I have always, and continue, to support the idea of a register of qualifies professional electricians. A bit like the gas scheme.


    In addition a register of qualified professional electrical inspectors.
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    After spending 5 years as an apprentice a couple of years ago(ish), when I went out on my own, as was enrolled on the NICEIC and checked every year - then the inspector asked which jobs i wanted to be inspected out of the years list. The penny then dropped and I realised why certain jobs I had been given whilst still employed  was 'going to be inspected'. Needless to say I resigned from the NICEIC as even in those days it was a farce.

    I dare not tell you want was a common fault I found when testing petrol pumps and the number of garages which had to cease selling fuel until faults had been corrected as I would not issue a certificate for the fire oficer - even from new!!

    Nothing changes.

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