Class 1 appliance with no exposed metal work to connect test lead too

Alex13:

lyledunn:

The purpose is to establish if the item is safe rather than filling in a box on a test sheet. 

That's my point I can't assure that an item is safe if I can't complete a full test run for the item class hence it must be recorded as a faulty item and marked as failed 

So are you are quite prepared to fail brand new equipment straight out of the box from the manufacturer?

Sparkingchip:

Alex13:

lyledunn:

The purpose is to establish if the item is safe rather than filling in a box on a test sheet. 

That's my point I can't assure that an item is safe if I can't complete a full test run for the item class hence it must be recorded as a faulty item and marked as failed 

So are you are quite prepared to fail brand new equipment straight out of the box from the manufacturer?

Yes if I'm putting my name to the safety of an item is it not better to fail an item than pass it wrongly and have someone die then your held in cort on a charge of manslaughter for the death due to negligence on your part no thank you I put no price on life 

gkenyon:

Agreed ... if you suspect there's something wrong, it's the right thing to do to point it out.


A competent person will always say "I don't know." or "I'm not prepared to decide this for myself." or "I'm personally not happy with that, get it looked into further" etc.

Thank you excatly right if something is in use its a little different but still best to keep an eye on it I'm working for a charity shop so items are in the main for resale therefore the must be right otherwise they fail its as black and white as that no gray area

Sparkingchip:

Okay, so you’re testing in a charity shop to ensure appliances are fit for resale, so it doesn’t really matter if you say something should be scrapped does it?


If you start testing in a location where there is specialist equipment and appliances it will be a completely different ball game as they cannot just be thrown away.


So you will either have to make the decision that the appliances are safe or recommend that advice is sort from the appliance manufacturer.


i can’t be asked to get the Code of Practice out at this time on a Saturday night, but I’m sure there are recommendations in there and it was something we discussed whilst training as an electrician and on the PAT course that there are all insulated class 1 appliances such as some laptop power supplies.


Try this one, how are you going to PAT a Teflon coated electric iron or are you going to scrap them all?

Well I was trained and qualified under the 4th edition so this wasn't covered and yes I'm certified by the iet as a pat tester and in the case of those items same as these I spoke to the boss who agreed that they must fail if they can't be properly tested also I have yet to come across such a coating causing a problem with the test (I have all ready tested and passed 10 different sandwich presses with non stick Teflon coatings with no issues, want get smart Alec let's get smart Alec it's my first name (Alexander, my grandad was known as Alec I was named after him) but any info from the code of practice I may have missed would be most helpful