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Multiple Ring Spurs.

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When was it common to run a ring final in a loft of say a bungalow, and have multiple spurs running down to sockets in rooms below? Why did this come about? Was it a wartime materials' saving provision? I am working in an old building wired in the early to mid 60s and no sockets seem to be on a ring, just spurs, but there are rings at the fuse box. The collection of a multitude of junction boxes is something to behold. It is junction box city, now all hidden under layers of glass fibre insulation. A real pig.


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    Yes Timesreved I did my own house Front then Back  (both floors) and Kitchen rings late 70s yet lighting two sep floors back then.


    Andy - Snicket , yes round here is a small passageway tween two hedges.


    It`s all a bit Alice in Wonderland though, when we use a word or term it means what we want it to mean and not always what someone else may mean, sometimes th`opposite. Strange world innit?


    Anyway - Rings, yes Dave good point (Although the one spur per point maxim is not observed)  I always prefers twins to singles anyway (unless you are trying to avoid the use of two "heavy" loads in one twin - say washer/dryer etc perhaps. Twin boxes make it easier to wire and not much price diff, sometimes twins are actually cheaper than singles too
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    One point per circuit. I recently installed two separate 16 Amp radial circuits each supplying just a single socket in a holiday rental property in the utility room. One is for the washing machine, the other for the tumble drier. You just can't trust double sockets these days to supply two heavy loads. And we don't want the holiday renters complaining.

    Z.
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    Timeserved:

    Only last week I came across a 4 bed property that had the left and right sides of the house split into RFC as apposed to downstairs and upstairs convention! ?


    Daughter's 4 bed house was (and still is in part) like that. Just to muddle things a bit more, spurs had been put straight through walls into the kitchen from both rings so that the sockets in one room were supplied by three circuits.


    The left/right (front/back) split is explained by the fact that the property was originally a pair of two semi-detached two-bed cottages.


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    "sockets in one room were supplied by three circuits"


    commendable.
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    Timeserved:

    Only last week I came across a 4 bed property that had the left and right sides of the house split into RFC as apposed to downstairs and upstairs convention! ?


    I always wire my socket circuits like this if i can.  Less cable and a better electrical design in my opinion.  If a circuit is out for some reason you still have functioning sockets on both floors.  



    Gary


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    If going by this forum is a indicator then it looks like this front/rear/left/right split is fairly common, I've never heard of it but then again only been a practicing sparks for around 3yrs in-between my usual fire & security work load.
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    Regarding bedroom light switching, in the home of a relative I oncle installed a Columbus time lag switch in parralel with and adjacent to the normal light switch.

    This allowed the ceiling light to remain on for long enough to walk across the room and get into bed. I rejected the more usual approach of two way switching with a pull cord over the bed due to lack of access to fit same.
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    There was a bed in the way ?

    I have seen the Quinetic wireless switches on a bed headboard for this purpose - allows the bed to be moved about and the switch to stay with it with no trailing wires. Not the cheapest but quite elegant.

    Mike
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    broadgage:

    Regarding bedroom light switching, in the home of a relative I oncle installed a Columbus time lag switch in parralel with and adjacent to the normal light switch.

    This allowed the ceiling light to remain on for long enough to walk across the room and get into bed. I rejected the more usual approach of two way switching with a pull cord over the bed due to lack of access to fit same.


    And the Columbus time switch, if pneumatic, woke the room occupant up after a few minutes with a loud "CLUNK" to remind him that he was just sleeping and not permanently expired.


    Z.


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