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Fire Alarm Design for Stately Homes

Morning All


As always, hoping someone can steer me in the right direction and pass on valuable advice/ recommendations:


Does anyone know if there are any specific fire alarm regulations/ requirements when designing a fire alarm system for a stately home.  This is an actual residence for a family, but due to the size of the property, the fact that the family employ staff to work within the home (7am-7pm, not 24/7), I feel that the normal application of fire alarm design for a 'regular' residential property may perhaps not be sufficient.


When reviewing the plans for the home, there are a lot of single points of egress (obviously as this was designed as a home not a business premises) and there are a lot of evacuation routes which appear to be greater than those you would normally use/ design when developing a fire alarm system for example within a business premises.


So, any advice as always would be hugely helpful and gratefully received.


Regards


Adrian B
  • Several years ago I was invited to visit the storage area of a museum to see exhibits not normally on display and ended up spending part of the time looking at and discussing the aspirating fire alarm system, the alarm system on a completely different level to what is generally seen.

  • Fire alarm system? Stately Home? My advice? Run away! Run away! Not enough money in the world to tempt me into such a venture, and regardless of such I could never afford the insurance premium to cover it.

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    Sparkingchip: 
     

    Several years ago I was invited to visit the storage area of a museum to see exhibits not normally on display and ended up spending part of the time looking at and discussing the aspirating fire alarm system, the alarm system on a completely different level to what is generally seen.

    It's all calculated using pc software which gives you your spacings size of hole etc. 

    You have various options but it normally comes down to cost has most things do. 

    We also supply and install Firetrace have you ever come across this?

    Regards TS

  • The I.E.T. published a booook entitled "Electrician's Guide to Fire Detection and Fire Alarm Systems, 3rd Edition.” ISBN 978-1-78561-674-7

     

    It must be good, as even I parted with some hard earned to invest in a copy.

     

    Z.

  • Timeserved: 
     

    Sparkingchip: 
     

    Several years ago I was invited to visit the storage area of a museum to see exhibits not normally on display and ended up spending part of the time looking at and discussing the aspirating fire alarm system, the alarm system on a completely different level to what is generally seen.

    It's all calculated using pc software which gives you your spacings size of hole etc. 

    You have various options but it normally comes down to cost has most things do. 

    We also supply and install Firetrace have you ever come across this?

    Regards TS

    Firetrace seems very good from the videos that I have seen about its use and operation. But a bit expensive I feel. I like anything automatic if it is reliable, as human intervention is not required, and it can operate quickly without delay, being very effective.  Automatic extinguishing systems are good in vehicles, boat engine rooms, plant rooms, control panels and cabinets etc.

    Demo video……….

     

    Firetrace CNC Fire Suppression Demonstration - Bing video

    Z.

  • Thanks TS. Interesting regarding the aspirated system for the void.

  • Zoomup: 
     

    The I.E.T. published a booook entitled "Electrician's Guide to Fire Detection and Fire Alarm Systems, 3rd Edition.” ISBN 978-1-78561-674-7

     

    It must be good, as even I parted with some hard earned to invest in a copy.

     

    Z.

    Thanks for the book info. Z and the interesting Firetrace video which is food for thought.

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    Adrian Burgess: 
     

    Thanks TS. Interesting regarding the aspirated system for the void.

    Went with this solution because you can bet your bottom dollar that's the area that won't get tested by engineers, also from a health & safety aspect it was the way to go, surprisingly the client didn't need any encouragement they loved the idea. 

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    Zoomup: 
     

    Timeserved: 
     

    Sparkingchip: 
     

    Several years ago I was invited to visit the storage area of a museum to see exhibits not normally on display and ended up spending part of the time looking at and discussing the aspirating fire alarm system, the alarm system on a completely different level to what is generally seen.

    It's all calculated using pc software which gives you your spacings size of hole etc. 

    You have various options but it normally comes down to cost has most things do. 

    We also supply and install Firetrace have you ever come across this?

    Regards TS

    Firetrace seems very good from the videos that I have seen about its use and operation. But a bit expensive I feel. I like anything automatic if it is reliable, as human intervention is not required, and it can operate quickly without delay, being very effective.  Automatic extinguishing systems are good in vehicles, boat engine rooms, plant rooms, control panels and cabinets etc.

    Demo video……….

     

    Firetrace CNC Fire Suppression Demonstration - Bing video

    Z.

    I've done the training and got all the commissioning gear, 6 years later still haven't managed to get one sale!  Its a fantastically simple system, shame people do t always see the benefits the other problem imo is that the manufacturer also installs & maintains these systems, I would imagine they have an advantage here too.