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It's a funny old life.

A holiday chalet family asked the site manager why there was a red “FAIL, DO NOT USE” sticker on their bedroom infra red wall heater.

He said that the electrician had found a chalet fault whilst it was undergoing an inspection and test.

They said that they had not called upon an electrician. What was going on?

I had carried out the inspection and test after the manager had given me the chalet number and key for the chalet.

I had found that the wall heater was not earthed. 

I had also found that a ring final circuit had an end to end C.P.C. reading of 16 Ohms.

The site manager had given me the wrong chalet to test and the wrong key. He had mixed two up.

But if he hadn't  done that the faults would still be there unfound and unreported.

I come across much D.I.Y. dodgy work.

It's a funny old life innit?

 

Z.

 

 

  • But did you get paid?

  • Sparkingchip: 
     

    But did you get paid?

    Ah money! The all important factor. Yes, the site manager will pay me. He passes on a lot of work to me over the year. We are friends. I said that he must deduct 30 percent as a trade discount from my invoice.

     

    Z.

  • Blimey Zoom, if you can tolerate a 30% discount then what are your headline prices? It hurt me to knock of £15 on a full domestic rewire (quite a few years back though).

  • Problem Z, although you thought you did the right thing I'm sure.

    A “Do not use” sticker on the heater is not the safe solution is it? It could still be live even if switched off. If safety is the primary aim you could:

    Switch off the board and stick your label across the switch.

    Add an Earth to the heater and certify.

    Isolate the circuit at an FSU if present, or the switch or at the CPD.

    These are the “proper” solutions, although I would do none of these if an EICR Inspection. Why is that?

  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member

    Let me guess. You had been contracted to report on the condition of the electrical installation but you had not been contracted to rectify faults having the potential to make it hazardous.

  • ARE: 
     

    Let me guess. You had been contracted to report on the condition of the electrical installation but you had not been contracted to rectify faults having the potential to make it hazardous.

    I guess that's true. But Zoom is offering customer service above and beyond. Which is why he gets repeat business.

  • I was chatting to a retired lab technician the other day - he used to do a bit of ‘portable appliance testing’ and was given an extension lead to test (with some vague back story of someone perhaps having had a shock) - having spotted the obvious fault he fixed it & retested. Later the manager asked about the test and he explained what he'd done - to which the response was “Ah - that was meant to be evidence…”.

       - Andy.

  • My wife was not impressed when I put a do not use sticker on our kettle after I had been checking my testers in our kitchen, it failed testing with both PAT testers, my insulation and installation testers. After failing testing with four separate testers I decided it had earnt a badge of shame.

  • ebee: 
     

    Blimey Zoom, if you can tolerate a 30% discount then what are your headline prices? It hurt me to knock of £15 on a full domestic rewire (quite a few years back though).

    A good will gesture for my friend who had made a genuine mistake. I am not cheap and never want to be the cheapest. Why should I? Oh, and by the way, I am always very busy. Have you seen the price of motoring and overheads these days?

     

    Z.

  • davezawadi (David Stone): 
     

    Problem Z, although you thought you did the right thing I'm sure.

    A “Do not use” sticker on the heater is not the safe solution is it? It could still be live even if switched off. If safety is the primary aim you could:

    Switch off the board and stick your label across the switch.

    Add an Earth to the heater and certify.

    Isolate the circuit at an FSU if present, or the switch or at the CPD.

    These are the “proper” solutions, although I would do none of these if an EICR Inspection. Why is that?

    More assumptions Dave. I removed the fuse at the fused connection unit and left a second sticker on that. I was not there to do remedials, just to inspect, test and report.

     

    Z.