Hello,
I recieved an EICR for my Private Rented property from the landord. However, the post code of the address is wrong. Is the EICR still valid? It was done over a year ago, so Is it allowed to be corrected via just changing the post code or do the whole electrics need to be retested/inspected?
Depends on your appetite for being seen as a trouble maker.
Napit have a reputation to maintain - back in the days when folk could handle longer words it was called the
National Association of Professional Inspectors and Testers after all….
I'd be tempted to ask politely if they consider this level of inspection, with no actual results attached. to be a valid exercise for ensuring the safety of a flat as required by the “Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020”.
They do have formal complaint form and there is more about using that here but in your shoes I'd suggest you keep the powder dry to begin, and just ask more generally as a technical inquiry
if they would consider the level of the attached inspection is about right to meet the legal requirements of the recent “Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020” , because as supplied to you it seems to be missing all the actual test results and gives passes for some non existent items, like the RCD and SPD, and for all the use it is to you, it might as well relate to another flat completely.
If you like making waves, then try a similar line with the local authority, but take care.
Let us know what you decide and how it goes.
Mike.
well perhaps this chap is using up some old forms, Stroma was taken on by NAPIT on 7 Aug 2019 - this inspection was quite a bit after that, nearly a year, in July 2020 in fact so at the time he was very much registered with NAPIT, and still is.
It is also possible he was having a bad day, and the rest of his work is excellent.
Mike
mapj1:
well perhaps this chap is using up some old forms, Stroma was taken on by NAPIT on 7 Aug 2019 - this inspection was quite a bit after that, nearly a year, in July 2020 in fact so at the time he was very much registered with NAPIT, and still is.
That's not quite correct. NAPIT maintained the Stroma scheme until 2 Aug 21 when members were transferred over and the Stroma scheme ceased to exist.
There are really three separate issues here.
First, there is a contractual issue between the landlord and the electrician - did the electrician do what the landlord explicitly and/or implicitly asked the electrician to do. Unless requested, the electrician is under no obligation to do testing in addition to an inspection, nor to do the inspection to BS 7671. For example the landlord may have said “here's £20 - can you have a 10 minute look round and tell me if there's anything immediately dangerous”.
If the electrician didn't do what the landlord requested, then they will be in breach of contract and the landlord might be entitled to a refund or damages in a civil claim.
Second, the fact that the electrician (partially) filled in a BS 7671 EICR and signed a declaration, means that if the form or the declaration wasn't true they could be opening themselves up to a criminal prosecution as we saw on another thread on this forum recently.
Third, the landlord has a duty to get the electrics T&I'ed every 5 years under the ESSitPRS regulations. Bizarrely, the regs don't require the installation to be tested against BS 7671, but the inspector must be electrically competent. Anything identified as not compliant with BS 7671:2018 must be fixed within 28 days. If the local authority (or on appeal, the 1st tier tribunal) agree that a proper T&I wasn't carried out, or that relevant identified defects weren't fixed, then the landlord could be fined up to £30K.
Colin Haggett:
Under NAPIT he doesn’t have the scope to carry out EICRs.
As far as I can tell there's no requirement that he should be. Employing an electrician who belongs to one of the schemes (for inspections) is highly recommended, but not compulsory. (There's a historical issue in that the registered competent persons schemes were originally setup for building regs (part-P) purposes … and periodic inspection never was a controlled building activity (unlike electrical installation).)
The The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020 talk about needing a “qualified person” but the definitions only actually stipulate that they need be "competent" - so as long as they're capable of doing the job correctly, there's no requirement to belong to a scheme or even hold any particular paper qualification.
- Andy.
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