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Grid Tied Inverter Installation.

I have been forced to forgo my international fashion modelling career and judging the Pekinise gate jumping trials in Scunthorpe, to install a grid tied inverter. I suddenly realised that I don't know anything about them beyond the theoretical. Apparently the system is a 5kW one.

 

Private solar panels are to be installed on a barn roof in the open flat countryside. Horses live in the barns/stables. The barns have a sub-main fed from a farm house TT earthed. Two residential caravans are located next to the barns. The barn owners are going to install the solar panels. I am required to just wire up the grid tied inverter.

 

Do I just bung in a B16 into the submain board, and a couple of isolators and hope for the best?

 

Do I need to consider lightning protection, S.P.D.s etc?

 

P.S. We get lots of flying insects in our homes in the sticks. Tip: If  using a hanging sticky flypaper, do not hang it below head height above your desk chair. I should know.

 

Z.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • While the FIT scheme may have finished, it's now possible to claim export payments from some electricity suppliers.  It's usually a few pence per unit.

    But good luck trying to claim that money if you haven't got the correct MCS paperwork for your new solar install.  You will end up giving away your spare electricity.

  • Simon Barker: 
     

    . . . You will end up giving away your spare electricity.

    Or being flagged for an investigation due to reverse power being noted on the meter. 

    Regards,

    Alan.

  • ebee: 
     

    Zoom, if it were me, I would consider concentrating upon the Fly paper problem and leaving this install to A N Other

    Blinkin ek! You're always tellin' me that mate. But on this occasion I think that you may be right.?

    Z.

  • Alan Capon: 
     

    Simon Barker: 
     

    . . . You will end up giving away your spare electricity.

    Or being flagged for an investigation due to reverse power being noted on the meter. 

    Regards,

    Alan.

    Do electronic meters run backwards as did the old spinning disc type?

     

    Z.

  • The modern SMETS meters have separate registers for measuring export and import.  SMETS2 meters should be calibrated for both. SMETS1 meters were often not calibrated for export, because suppliers had no interest in measuring it.

    Older electronic meters normally stopped on export, though there was one model that added the import and export together, much to the consternation of anyone who had installed solar panels and found their bills going up instead of down.

    Not all spinning disc meters ran backwards.  The later ones had a ratchet mechanism to stop that.  I still have one, and it stops and makes strange grinding noises while I am exporting (but it hasn't broken yet).

  • We had to change our spinning disc meter for a new digital meter that only recorded power consumed. We now have a “smart meter” which records inbound and outbound power.

    Others have already covered relevant points regarding the solar installation. It is worth noting that G99 conditions apply if more that one 3.6kW grid tied inverter is connected at a single premises and must get prior approval for the connection. 

  • It is worth noting that G99 conditions apply if more that one 3.6kW grid tied inverter is connected at a single premises and must get prior approval for the connection. 

    I think the 3.6kW limit is only for single phase - 3-phase would be allowed up to 11kW.

      - Andy.


  • It is worth noting that G99 conditions apply if more that one 3.6kW grid tied inverter is connected at a single premises and must get prior approval for the connection. 



    I think the 3.6kW limit is only for single phase - 3-phase would be allowed up to 11kW.




    As noted by others earlier, strictly the actual limit for G98 is 16A per phase at 230/400V. This is, in effect, 3.68kW single phase or 11.04kW three phase, but the definition in terms of current, not power, is sometimes relevant.


  • Jam: 
     

    It is worth noting that G99 conditions apply if more that one 3.6kW grid tied inverter is connected at a single premises and must get prior approval for the connection. 

    I think the 3.6kW limit is only for single phase - 3-phase would be allowed up to 11kW.

    As noted by others earlier, strictly the actual limit for G98 is 16A per phase at 230/400V. This is, in effect, 3.68kW single phase or 11.04kW three phase, but the definition in terms of current, not power, is sometimes relevant.

    You also need to be careful of neutral currents if you fit single-phase inverters in a three-phase installation. If one phase is loaded up, a but of load on a second phase, and nothing but export on the third phase, you can end up with a larger neutral current than you designed for.

    Using three-phase inverters in a three-phase installation helps avoid this.

  • Interesting that Graham, what N current do you foresee at worst?