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Cooker and shower on the same circuit

Hello everyone,

A few months back, a qualified electrician told me that a cooker and a shower can both be put on the same circuit; that doesn't sound right, surely loads using such a large amount of power must be on their own individual circuits?

I haven't been able to ask a question about this until now because I had difficulty logging into my IET account and had to get a new username and password for it.

Thank you,

Dasa

  • I keep quietly telling people that the electrical I do is not complicated, it just needs to be done to a reasonable standard, being both safe and tidy.

    Yet these days I end up literally all over the country to do it and seem to spend as much time tidying up what is already there as putting in new stuff, the general standard of electrical installations in this country is pretty dire and the general standard needs raising.

    A rule of thumb that you won’t find in BS7671, if it looks rough it probably is and the deeper you dig the worse it will get.

  • A rule of thumb that you won’t find in BS7671, if it looks rough it probably is and the deeper you dig the worse it will get.

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  • "I cannot believe that this thread is still going." Ha, ha!

    Z.

  • Zoom, old boy, its because this lot do not appeciate the legacy they'll leave behind on an unsuspecting public who when searching for advice are likely to find this debate and end up becoming totally confused .......Thinking  

  • The Great unwashed should leave technical stuff to experts like us, and definitely not do D.I.Y. electrics. Why do we encourage it? We are cutting our own throats. It is not like wallpapering where lives are not at risk.

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    And related engineering topics eh?

    Z.

  • Hello everyone,

    Thank you all for your many interesting replies. I never imagined that my question would start off such a debate!

    I am an electrician’s mate with eight year’s site experience, and I am hoping to sit my AM2 later this year.

    I am currently working at a new hospital unit. Late last year, our supervisor and a couple of other electrician’s mates were having a chat about training and qualifying, and at one point, when discussing various kinds of electrical work, our supervisor, who is qualified and experienced and in charge of the other electricians and mates on the site, said that a cooker and shower could go on the same circuit; I did reply by asking if that would be against the Regs, and I think his response was that it wasn’t as long as sufficient sized cable was used.

    I am not yet an electrician, so I wasn’t going to dispute what he said, but when I do eventually qualify, it is not something I would EVER do, I would always install two high wattage devices on their own circuits.

    I was just interested in hearing the opinions of other IET members.

    Thank you,

    Dasa

  • It is always good to enquire Dasa. Good luck to you in your progress as an electrician.

    Z.

  • It is not like wallpapering where lives are not at risk.

    Humm - I wonder what the accident stats are for falling from ladders etc.  compared with the results of DIY electrics. Or from a wider decorating perspective how many house fires were made more dangerous by painting polystyrene tiles with gloss paint.

       - Andy.

  • It is not like wallpapering where lives are not at risk.

    Oddly enough, on the job i was on recently, we had some of the floorboards up in a second floor bathroom of a Victorian terraced house. The client and I noticed that the ceiling below had become detached from the lathes, and there was a gap of about an inch or so. The room below was being prepared to be a bedroom for a very poorly person. The wallpaper on the ceiling is original embossed, heavy duty stuff which is basically holding up the plaster above.

    The carpenter on site has mentioned that you can get fibre reinforced lining paper, which you paste in two layers in different directions specifically to hold up dodgy ceilings, which seems a bit scary to me.

  • well it seems that knives and so on used to do wallpapering and other DIY tasks are pretty much at the top on the danger list.

    Some figures from ROSPA  Oddly despite electrical work and gaswork not figuring anywhere  in the top ten dangerous DIY activities, they are the only areas singled out at the end of the article as activities where a professional should be called. Having seen the work of some so called electrical professionals, such faith is not always well placed.

    Mike