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IEE001 ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS- Ded Parrot

Anthony Dicker

Hi I have been off line for a while but am back on the case now.

We were on inrush current-   Many thanks for that info.

I just looked at my business insurance document. It clearly states the above.(Not The parrot bit.)

So what what is the legal situation with my insurers if the IEE is defunct.

But they ask for a current--- ha ha-- IEE certificate. 

Can IET members take over the IEE responsibility -or is this someones court case -waiting to happen.

There is also the question of     -competent person on site-    who would have been  a well respected IEE engineer -back in the day.

Over shadowing all other qualifications - as the REGs were written by the IEE. Engineers.

So how have the IET amalgamated all this in?.

Tony

  • in reply to gkenyon

    True, and probably a good thing it is not the same, as that is a discipline requiring a different skill set to either initial design or installation. However, there maybe maybe should be a requirement of some sort, just not quite the same one.

    The inspector of 'anything' has to be able to reverse engineer whatever is in front of him/her, and has in part a detective role. At a basic level there is the walk around and see does it look damaged, and that could be done by almost anyone with a notebook. However. for complex systems, and this problem will increase with automation and complex interlinked systems there can far more to consider. A non-standard design should not be 'failed' because the inspector does not understand it, but of course something that was put in beautifully but is not safe, should not be passed for further use, and that may be a hard call to make.
    I also think this will get worse,  and I am fairly sure there are plenty of folk installing who do not understand central heating wiring, let alone what will be needed in a smart house with embedded generation and autonomous load shedding etc.

    Perhaps a distinction should be made between what knowledge is needed for a simple visual inspection of systems known to have been 'good' when installed - so just  looking more for damage and decay on one hand,  and a  more comprehensive 'drains up'  engineered analysis reserved for systems of uncertain provenance, on the other.

    but we are probably drifting off-thread a bit.

    Mike

  • in reply to Simon Barker

    Obviously the IET acted like a niche organisation and did not contact all parties across the spectrum- who were using thier certification. If the IET pulled the rug out from the IEE certification without having a care for down stream compliance-- then there could be a legal morass.. if someone gets marmalized.. Also the lay people who try to interpret  the regs  think a walk in cool room is a portable appliance., then it deteriorates from there.

    Tony

  • Depends who you ask what IEE certs are. This firm thinks they are part of an EICR  https://www.phscompliance.co.uk/news/what-is-an-iee-certification/

    Makes a change from insurance companies insisting the works should be done by the NICEIC. :)

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