What is required to do work in a commercial or industrial setting? a follow up to my question about CPS's...

So, being part of a CPS allows you to do work in a dwelling consisting of the following and notify local authority:

Work in the zones of a bathroom.

Carry out a CU replacement, installation

install a new circuit.

any other work in a dwelling, you do not need to be part of a CPS. correct?

so my question is: what is required of you to be legally allowed to install and test electrical installations in a commercial, or industrial environment?

  • There are no legal requirements for qualifications, certifications or memberships in such environments. Just general "be skilled enough to be safe"  admonishments in places like the Electricity at Work Regulations. But such things are useful to wave at prospective employers, clients and insurance companies to convince them that you're suitably competent. Or to show a jury if you ever got prosecuted.

  • Seconded.No legal requirment.. However - The main requirement is to have the confidence of the person commissioning the job, and to know what their house rules are in terms of making it work with the rest of the installation and perhaps any conditions their insurers may stipulate - for example Churches and some brewery chains have their own rules, not in law, but you will have to follow them to get the job.

    Mike.

  • The question has been answered above (or below if you choose), but there is potentially legal liability for failing to do a good job. That may be a breach of contract - there is an implied term that the work will be to a satisfactory standard. Then there is the law of tort, i.e. if the work is negligent, you will be liable.  A wise electrician will insure himself or herself. As far as I can recall, I never had to prove my competence to my insurers, but as a member of a CPS, I never really had to.

  • So, being part of a CPS allows you to do work in a dwelling consisting of the following and notify local authority:

    Not exactly. 

    Anyone competent may do that. 

    Being "part of a CPS" merely alters the methods of notification and payment.

  • Great advice from all again. This forum is a great place for knowledge and info

    Thanks a lot all!

  • is there a requirement to notify anyone such as building control for any works carried out? like there is in a dwelling?

    thanks for the info and advice on this post and my previous mate, much appreciated. 

  • No, nothing in law. Well, in E&W - I'm not so familiar with Scotland or NI. Of course there might be a contractual obligation to notify a landlord or insurance company, but those are more likely to be obligations on the person ordering the work rather than the person doing the work.

  • Yeah i understand that cheers. Poor explaining by me. i just meant being part of a cps seems to be the easiest and cheapest method

  • Awesome thanks again mate. I already had that feeling but i wanted to be definitely sure.

    cheers!

  • one other thing, installation of an EV charge point in a dwelling is obviously going to be notifiable.

    is there any rules etc about EVCP in industrial/ commercial settings?

    I want to do be able to install them in commercial and industrial settings (and hopefully domestic once i can join a CPS) and im going to do the EVCP course. Is that all i would need to be able to install EVCP's in these applications? I'm guessing there is no other rules so long as the charge point is installed as per Regs?

    thanks!