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Electric Shower isolator ?

Hi guys.

I have just done an EICR on a rental. They have relatively recently had a shower installed (brown/blue cable) with no local isolator fitted. The CU is quite old so the mcb's can't be locked off and neither can the up front rcd. Does a C3 sound right or no code just a mention. I have looked at a couple of Mira installation manuals for reference and they state recommended isolation switch rather than requires so as far as i can see not a manufacturers instruction either.

Gary

  • So What does switching off for mechanical maintenance mean on an EICR? What part of the installation does it apply to? Are local isolators not required in a domestic property. What is the following referring to on a EICR?

    Presence and condition of appropriate devices (464.1; 537.3.2) Capable of being secured in the OFF position where not under continuous supervision (464.2) Correct operation verified (643.10) Clearly identified by position and / or durable marking (537.3.2.4)

  • Are local isolators required for mechanical maintenance in general?

    Not according to BS7671. Local isolation is not required for any appliance.

  • Also according to manufacturers instructions It is important to use an isolating switch for safety reasons, such as preventing accidental activation of the shower, protecting the shower from power surges, and allowing easy access for maintenance or repair ? 

  • Are local isolators required for mechanical maintenance in general? I can appreciate the need for an isolator for mechanical maintenance of an oven/hob, for instance, to facilitate cleaning. However, what kind of mechanical maintenance would a shower entail?

  • Yes, I understand the issue with maintenance, but bear in mind that satisfying the implication of a particular regulation or manufacturer’s instruction inevitably means a connection arrangement that can introduce its own issues. One of the biggest landlords in these islands reports a high incidence of burning at the terminals of those ubiquitous 45A pullcord switches, especially on the neutral. 

  • Last weekend, I stayed in guest accommodation. In the bedroom, there was a ceiling mounted switch. It isolated (or at least interrupted the line) the shower in the en suite. In the bathroom, there was a similar switch for the lights.

    If somebody felt that the shower should be isolated outside the room, or zones, it could well have been by an ordinary wall-mounted switch.

    I fear that there is a lot of confusion.

  • Hello Gary

    The link below to ann IET Wiring Matters article provides information on isolation for mechanical maintenance. 

    https://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-matters/years/2023/94-march-2023/isolation-and-switching-for-mechanical-maintenance/

    I hope you find it useful. 

  • I see your point about all the circuits. The more i think about it i am comfortable with a C3. The problem i see is if a plumber comes to change the shower he has no control of the CU and no local isolator.

    I appreciate the input. Thanks guys

    Gary

  • Well, they are 3 parts useless, but they will get you through a C&G assessment. I think that the point of locking off is not absolutely to ensure that a switch cannot be moved (same as a padlock on a door can always be removed if you try hard enough), but that such an action must be deliberate.

    Assuming that the shower has its own circuit, it seems a bit odd not to have some form of functional isolation (even if it is just in the line) but I do not think that in itself gives rise to a C3. Nor do I think that the difficulty of locking off does so - you would have to give a C3 for all of the circuits.

  • the mcbs dont have a hole in either to fit a lock

    Some MCBs were designed to use a lock-off that clamped straight onto the toggles - no holes needed. e.g. https://martindale-electric.co.uk/product/martindale-lok8-compact-mcb-lock-off-device/

       - Andy.