The IET has been very silent on Brexit. This is an area where a professional institution could really help its members, for example on CE marking. Certainly there should be guidance on EurIng and the more general question of recognition of professional qualifications.

The EEF by contrast has been very active.

Not completely silent, because a site search turns up a few things.  But not extremely active, agreed.  I feel they (The IET) are being somewhat careful; because there are very strong feelings on both sides and sticking your head over the parapet is liable to get you shot at.


However, especially for smaller businesses, given that what is actually going to happen is so up in the air right now you would need to advise on every possible option (the implications for VAT MOSS are a whole different discussion).


I wonder what the EU will make of the proposed 2 year degrees?  They didn't much like our 3 year degrees to start with!

I became EUR ING because of Brexit, precisely because it isn't very clear how professional and academic qualifications will be mutually recognised in the future.


At the same time, I asked for my UK degree to be assessed by the local organisation NUFIC in the Netherlands for how it compared to a Dutch degree. I got this service for "free" as part of the possible residency tests (which we now know won't be required). The results were very disappointing. I graduated with 1st class honours and the prize for the best final papers in my course at the University of York. In those days you just got your degree certificate and that was it. Apparently now you are provided with written evidence of your exam scores in your final year. No one still has a copy of those results from so many years ago (including the University). So NUFIC awarded me a certificate of equivalence for the lowest class Dutch degree because I couldn't hand over the necessary bits of paper, even though my degree certificate clearly states 1st class honours.


If this is the future for "equivalance testing" of historic results going forward, I can only recommend getting a European qualification while you can. Your mileage may vary depending on upcoming negotiations.

Mutual recognition of accreditations is done by various accords. It's not part of the European Union (EU) mechanisms, so should be unaffected by the leaving of the EU. There may be minor local difficulties, but the general agreement about mutual recognition is covered by the Accords.

I'm sorry I don't fully understand your post stating that recognition is "not part of the European Union (EU) mechanisms".


I've looked up the "accords" on the Engineering Council web site.


Have I got the correct ones that you mean?

https://www.ieagreements.org/accords/sydney/
https://www.ieagreements.org/accords/washington/signatories/
https://www.ieagreements.org/accords/dublin/


Because neither the Netherlands nor the EU is a signatory to any of these.


Nor does the Netherlands appear to be part of EUR ACE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUR-ACE_label as an individual country, except via FEANI (hence I think that the EUR ING is useful for me)


However, the Netherlands (via the EU) is certainly part of mutual recognition via various directives e.g. Directive 2005/36/EC (MRPQ), Directive 89/48/EEC, and Directive 92/51/EEC. These are also explicitly covered in the Withdrawal Agreement Chapter 3 Articles 27-29.

So in summary, here's what I think


1) to answer the original posters question, I think the path from CEng to EUR ING will still be open, because EUR ING is administered by FEANI which is not an EU institution and the Engineering Council continues to be a member of FEANI.


2) EUR ING is a useful qualification to have IMHO for working in the EU27 countries because EUR ING is administered by FEANI and FEANI is explicitly recognised by the EU as a body that is competent to administer academic and professional engineering qualifications. So having a EUR ING title will automatically provide a path to (maintaining) mutual recognition in all EU27 countries.


3) CEng and Chartered Engineer on its own will be less recognised as of the end of the transition period (31st Dec 2020) (unless there's a new deal). CEng and Chartered Engineer will remain registered as a protected title in the UK under civil law. The current registration and mutually recognition under EU law of "CEng and ""Chartered Engineer" via directive 2005/36/EC will cease at the end of the transition period.


Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Interesting post from IChemE. Thanks for posting. This information about FEANI matches with points 1 & 2 I made above.


Although they also clearly state in the text "Professional recognition is covered under the EU Professional Qualifications Directive (2005/36/EC as modernised by 2013/55/EU)".


Unless I'm very much mistaken, that directive will no longer apply to UK citizens moving to the EU27 or EU27 citizens moving to the UK after the end of the transition period (31st December 2020) for any new assessments of equivalence for people who are "just" CEng or have another equivalent national professional qualification and haven't yet bothered with obtaining EUR ING [point 3].


We shall see if that's significant. IMVHO My bases appear covered, but only because of EUR ING (FEANI), not because of CEng (Engineering Council). Your mileage may vary.