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Value in IEng Registration

Allan Rowan
Afternoon all, just sitting behind a laptop screen pondering and found myself plotting course for my career progression and seemingly unlikely professional registration for CEng.


My current employer has encouraged that I achieve CEng registration (easier said than done) and any promotion to the next grade would be subject to attaining CEng. I'm wary of submitting my application for CEng due to not having an adequate level of education (I have a Bachelors degree only)  and at my age there's little chance of me returning to university for further study. I'm employed as a senior engineer and acting principal engineer within a project I'm currently commissioned. I appreciate that working at a principal engineer level does not necessarily provide the evidence required to prove that my understanding and knowledge is at a MEng level.


Rewind a few years, I was reasonably proud of successful registration and to achieve IEng, however, to date I'm of the opinion that it has done little else other than measurement / benchmark of my competence and identify area's in which I need to strengthen. My employer (at the time of registration) did not professionally recognise IEng registration and from my own observations nor do other employers (that I've noticed). A cursory glance of job listings on LinkedIn, shall normally state a requirement for applicants to hold CEng registration or working towards CEng with no mention of IEng. There's an immense pressure to achieve Chartership and with failure to do so could be possibly observed as I'm either inadequate or not quite cutting the grade by a prospective or current employer.


Is there any value to the IEng registration other than a personal achievement and worth maintaining? I imagine the nervousness and apprehension about navigating the CEng route and the fear of failure that I'm not unique in this respect and other's may have a similar story? Not sure what I would wish to hear, but knowing of others that succeeded with a similar background and level of education would provide some encouragement.


Regards,

Allan. 

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    James Walker:

    But when the organisation that is supposed protect and monitor our profession continues to undervalue what has become minority section and only promotes its position as a stepping stone to their ideals - that, in my eyes, is unacceptable.

     




    Hi Jim,

    As people are probably bored of me writing at great length elsewhere: to be honest I think the PEIs would be pushing against a brick wall if they did try to promote IEng more. Industry values its "IEng" staff but sees no need for them to be registered by a third party. Whereas as I've just written, they need to identify their CEngs because they're the ones they're hoping will keep the directors out of jail when the system goes wrong - "What precautions did we take? We got a CEng to sign it off." Crack that problem for IEng and you've solved the whole issue.


    (So for all of this talk about "status", ok it's at a different scale but CEngs are wanted for the same reasons that Part P electricians and GasSafe fitters are wanted! Whenever we get too pleased with ourselves we need to remember that.)


    But again as I've written at length elsewhere, I think industry is wrong: I passionately believe that employers should be asking for IEng (and EngTech), just as I passionately believe that the whole of industry should be asking for professional registration - remember when we talk about "minorities" it's only a tiny minority of engineers who are professionally registered at all. But there you go, most things I believe are not believed by the vast majority of human society - I'm very used to it!


    Cheers,


    Andy


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    James Walker:

    But when the organisation that is supposed protect and monitor our profession continues to undervalue what has become minority section and only promotes its position as a stepping stone to their ideals - that, in my eyes, is unacceptable.

     




    Hi Jim,

    As people are probably bored of me writing at great length elsewhere: to be honest I think the PEIs would be pushing against a brick wall if they did try to promote IEng more. Industry values its "IEng" staff but sees no need for them to be registered by a third party. Whereas as I've just written, they need to identify their CEngs because they're the ones they're hoping will keep the directors out of jail when the system goes wrong - "What precautions did we take? We got a CEng to sign it off." Crack that problem for IEng and you've solved the whole issue.


    (So for all of this talk about "status", ok it's at a different scale but CEngs are wanted for the same reasons that Part P electricians and GasSafe fitters are wanted! Whenever we get too pleased with ourselves we need to remember that.)


    But again as I've written at length elsewhere, I think industry is wrong: I passionately believe that employers should be asking for IEng (and EngTech), just as I passionately believe that the whole of industry should be asking for professional registration - remember when we talk about "minorities" it's only a tiny minority of engineers who are professionally registered at all. But there you go, most things I believe are not believed by the vast majority of human society - I'm very used to it!


    Cheers,


    Andy


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