Andy Millar:... to be honest I think the PEIs would be pushing against a brick wall if they did try to promote IEng more. Industry values its "IEng" staff but sees no need for them to be registered by a third party.
Very true. I also think that it is wrong to say that the IET undervalues IEng. There are certain people who undervalue IEng and they tend to be CEng though from my experience of meeting IEng and CEng they tend to be a minority, but unfortunately seem to be rather vocal. (I have a suspicion that they tend to be those who struggled to get CEng and therefore want to make out CEng is an elite, but I will leave it to the psychologists to work on that thought).
The biggest difficulty we have is altering preconceptions/prejudices. The difficulty of eliminating racial prejudice (or even sex discrimination) is a demonstration of this, and shows that it can take years to make a difference.
The views that are seen to be held by the IET are the views held by the members who are actively participating in the running of the IET. Perhaps part of the answer is that those of us who value all categories of registration (and I am not just limiting it to CEng and IEng here) should take a more active part in the running of the Institution. Unfortunately I am as guilty as anyone else in feeling I am too busy elsewhere to spare the time....
Alasdair
Late edit:
Just read Roy's post. Well thought out and cogent as usual - the suggestion for a separate body for IEng and EngTech is thought provoking. Perhaps the IET should set up such an internal body to show the need in the wider engineering community.
Andy Millar:... to be honest I think the PEIs would be pushing against a brick wall if they did try to promote IEng more. Industry values its "IEng" staff but sees no need for them to be registered by a third party.
Very true. I also think that it is wrong to say that the IET undervalues IEng. There are certain people who undervalue IEng and they tend to be CEng though from my experience of meeting IEng and CEng they tend to be a minority, but unfortunately seem to be rather vocal. (I have a suspicion that they tend to be those who struggled to get CEng and therefore want to make out CEng is an elite, but I will leave it to the psychologists to work on that thought).
The biggest difficulty we have is altering preconceptions/prejudices. The difficulty of eliminating racial prejudice (or even sex discrimination) is a demonstration of this, and shows that it can take years to make a difference.
The views that are seen to be held by the IET are the views held by the members who are actively participating in the running of the IET. Perhaps part of the answer is that those of us who value all categories of registration (and I am not just limiting it to CEng and IEng here) should take a more active part in the running of the Institution. Unfortunately I am as guilty as anyone else in feeling I am too busy elsewhere to spare the time....
Alasdair
Late edit:
Just read Roy's post. Well thought out and cogent as usual - the suggestion for a separate body for IEng and EngTech is thought provoking. Perhaps the IET should set up such an internal body to show the need in the wider engineering community.
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