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Value in IEng Registration

Allan Rowan
Afternoon all, just sitting behind a laptop screen pondering and found myself plotting course for my career progression and seemingly unlikely professional registration for CEng.


My current employer has encouraged that I achieve CEng registration (easier said than done) and any promotion to the next grade would be subject to attaining CEng. I'm wary of submitting my application for CEng due to not having an adequate level of education (I have a Bachelors degree only)  and at my age there's little chance of me returning to university for further study. I'm employed as a senior engineer and acting principal engineer within a project I'm currently commissioned. I appreciate that working at a principal engineer level does not necessarily provide the evidence required to prove that my understanding and knowledge is at a MEng level.


Rewind a few years, I was reasonably proud of successful registration and to achieve IEng, however, to date I'm of the opinion that it has done little else other than measurement / benchmark of my competence and identify area's in which I need to strengthen. My employer (at the time of registration) did not professionally recognise IEng registration and from my own observations nor do other employers (that I've noticed). A cursory glance of job listings on LinkedIn, shall normally state a requirement for applicants to hold CEng registration or working towards CEng with no mention of IEng. There's an immense pressure to achieve Chartership and with failure to do so could be possibly observed as I'm either inadequate or not quite cutting the grade by a prospective or current employer.


Is there any value to the IEng registration other than a personal achievement and worth maintaining? I imagine the nervousness and apprehension about navigating the CEng route and the fear of failure that I'm not unique in this respect and other's may have a similar story? Not sure what I would wish to hear, but knowing of others that succeeded with a similar background and level of education would provide some encouragement.


Regards,

Allan. 

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    Andy, that's brilliant! Your reference to the 4th edition agrees with my observation and personal experience in the job roles I and my colleagues carried out some years ago before I left the company. Responsibilities such as managing computer and communications infrastructure in a large organisation purely on a technical level is as important as innovation and management responsibilities. 


    As for Maxwell's equations; I understand exactly where you're coming from. It's really down to the lecturers to properly explain their subjects and not the students to grasp it just like that. You get some good lecturers, and you get some bad lecturers; and I suspect the bad ones either don't fully understand their subject matter, or they do, but don't want to reveal all. Thankfully, nowadays there are brilliant lecturers we can learn from on TV and other media outlets such as YouTube. Jim Al-Khalili is my favourite; glad to see he was honoured by the IET as HonFIET.

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    Roy, please accept my apologies if I came across as abrupt or arrogant. I'm not as diplomatic as I should be; probably due to not having any management experience. It seems, according to Andy, that the 4th edition might provide the opportunity for more engineers to obtain CEng registration, but that does imply a lowering in status for IEng; though perhaps opportunities for EngTechs to advance into. 


    By the way Roy, when I sat my CEI/EC exams, I passed all the technical based papers (including Maths) at my first attempt, but flunked the general paper - The Engineer in Society. Dispite the Maths in my arsenal, the IEE/IET said I did not meet the educational standard to apply for CEng. So you see, they really preferred university graduates, and the requirements for Maths was just an excuse they used against non graduates to keep them out of achieving CEng registration; and not passing the general knowledge paper, was the excuse for keeping people like me out. 


    Cheers.
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    Andy, that's brilliant! Your reference to the 4th edition agrees with my observation and personal experience in the job roles I and my colleagues carried out some years ago before I left the company. Responsibilities such as managing computer and communications infrastructure in a large organisation purely on a technical level is as important as innovation and management responsibilities. 


    As for Maxwell's equations; I understand exactly where you're coming from. It's really down to the lecturers to properly explain their subjects and not the students to grasp it just like that. You get some good lecturers, and you get some bad lecturers; and I suspect the bad ones either don't fully understand their subject matter, or they do, but don't want to reveal all. Thankfully, nowadays there are brilliant lecturers we can learn from on TV and other media outlets such as YouTube. Jim Al-Khalili is my favourite; glad to see he was honoured by the IET as HonFIET.

    ​​

    Roy, please accept my apologies if I came across as abrupt or arrogant. I'm not as diplomatic as I should be; probably due to not having any management experience. It seems, according to Andy, that the 4th edition might provide the opportunity for more engineers to obtain CEng registration, but that does imply a lowering in status for IEng; though perhaps opportunities for EngTechs to advance into. 


    By the way Roy, when I sat my CEI/EC exams, I passed all the technical based papers (including Maths) at my first attempt, but flunked the general paper - The Engineer in Society. Dispite the Maths in my arsenal, the IEE/IET said I did not meet the educational standard to apply for CEng. So you see, they really preferred university graduates, and the requirements for Maths was just an excuse they used against non graduates to keep them out of achieving CEng registration; and not passing the general knowledge paper, was the excuse for keeping people like me out. 


    Cheers.
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