Andy Millar:

I've just had a careful read through of all the competences for 3rd and 4th edition for IEng and CEng. Really interesting. The IEng competences are basically completely unchanged. The CEng competences are very different. If one wanted to, one could say that IEng has stayed the same and that technical competences for CEng have been downgraded!


What I hadn't spotted before is that the management competences for CEng have been increased.

I'd agree that the A/B competencies have been loosened, particularly A2, B1 and B2.


I'm not convinced at all that C competencies have changed significantly. C1 and C2 are re-worded but look equivalent. C3 has been extended from just leading teams to "lead teams or technical specialisms". This I think is a positive move as the 3rd edition tended to make things difficult for the SME type of engineer.


C4 is broadly the same although "quality" has been removed, which I think is a mistake, but ultimately not significant.


Tim


 

Andy Millar:

I've just had a careful read through of all the competences for 3rd and 4th edition for IEng and CEng. Really interesting. The IEng competences are basically completely unchanged. The CEng competences are very different. If one wanted to, one could say that IEng has stayed the same and that technical competences for CEng have been downgraded!


What I hadn't spotted before is that the management competences for CEng have been increased.

I'd agree that the A/B competencies have been loosened, particularly A2, B1 and B2.


I'm not convinced at all that C competencies have changed significantly. C1 and C2 are re-worded but look equivalent. C3 has been extended from just leading teams to "lead teams or technical specialisms". This I think is a positive move as the 3rd edition tended to make things difficult for the SME type of engineer.


C4 is broadly the same although "quality" has been removed, which I think is a mistake, but ultimately not significant.


Tim