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UKSpec 4th Edition

Peter Miller over 4 years ago

The latest edition of UKSpec has been published. Downgrading of IEng competencies as promised.

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0 Roy Bowdler over 4 years ago

Roy P and Andy, good posts. Its important for others to understand that we share common aims and values, which reflect the collective policy of the IET. However, we should understand that there are IET members and other stakeholders with power and influence, who have differing aims and values.

As for “turning into a Saga”, I won’t apologise for my longer than ideal posts. It’s my risk if readers switch off, but given the complexity of the issues and new contributors joining the discussion, I think that additional explanation is justified.

My key point about UK-SPEC is that it isn’t the only point of reference, or even for many stakeholders the main one.

As I hope I have made clear, teenage academic selection is the primary influence on the career paths of new entrants and those aged under 35. Obviously, Engineers and Technicians need to be selected for employment and/or study on the basis of aptitude and motivation, which are not fixed points, they evolve, as do opportunities.

The diversity of engineering and technology. The necessity so often for teamwork and the opportunity for talent to flower in the workplace. Leads me to challenge the culture and methods of the Engineering Council family, which are themselves strongly influenced by an “establishment” of other organisations.

When the Cleese, Barker, Corbett sketch no longer seems redolent. The true culture of engineering in the workplace, may be allowed to shine through. We may also even collectively have higher status, for the benefits we bring to society, not through attempts to aggrandise an elite.
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0 Roy Bowdler over 4 years ago

Roy P and Andy, good posts. Its important for others to understand that we share common aims and values, which reflect the collective policy of the IET. However, we should understand that there are IET members and other stakeholders with power and influence, who have differing aims and values.

As for “turning into a Saga”, I won’t apologise for my longer than ideal posts. It’s my risk if readers switch off, but given the complexity of the issues and new contributors joining the discussion, I think that additional explanation is justified.

My key point about UK-SPEC is that it isn’t the only point of reference, or even for many stakeholders the main one.

As I hope I have made clear, teenage academic selection is the primary influence on the career paths of new entrants and those aged under 35. Obviously, Engineers and Technicians need to be selected for employment and/or study on the basis of aptitude and motivation, which are not fixed points, they evolve, as do opportunities.

The diversity of engineering and technology. The necessity so often for teamwork and the opportunity for talent to flower in the workplace. Leads me to challenge the culture and methods of the Engineering Council family, which are themselves strongly influenced by an “establishment” of other organisations.

When the Cleese, Barker, Corbett sketch no longer seems redolent. The true culture of engineering in the workplace, may be allowed to shine through. We may also even collectively have higher status, for the benefits we bring to society, not through attempts to aggrandise an elite.
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