Roy Bowdler:
Get well soon! Roy P Interesting Ethnographic Research Andy ?
Not so much research as 60 years of bafflement of the world around me ? It's interesting (as many people have pointed out) that whereas the internet could have allowed a greater understanding of other people's opinions, in practice it feels as if it's done the opposite and allowed everyone with each particular opinion to find each other and reinforce it. So I think it is useful for all of us to keep pointing out that there are other views (whether emotional or evidence based, and whether valid or based on misunderstandings or lack of information - we all have those!)
Yes, hoping to see Roy P back soon. You might remember that at the last Registration and Standards conference I used the description "those of us who grow hair in the wrong places" to describe the current average demographic of the R&S community...I could have used "those of us who if we are not recovering from an operation are waiting for the next one"! (That said, after my last one I'm finally back up to running 4.5k now, hopefully 5k in a couple of weeks if I don't do anything silly again.)
So bringing us back on track - in the end all of this does come down to a judgement on the part of the assessors and always will, I don't believe you could ever write a spec that precisely defines all engineering roles, so I still stick to my guns that the best way to improve the current situation is to get more practising senior engineers and engineering managers involved in the assessment process - if they haven't got time to volunteer then they are probably the people we want! And if the standards are wrong these people will then have the oomph to drive it - because they're the users, "customers", out there in the real world.
Cheers,
Andy
Roy Bowdler:
Get well soon! Roy P Interesting Ethnographic Research Andy ?
Not so much research as 60 years of bafflement of the world around me ? It's interesting (as many people have pointed out) that whereas the internet could have allowed a greater understanding of other people's opinions, in practice it feels as if it's done the opposite and allowed everyone with each particular opinion to find each other and reinforce it. So I think it is useful for all of us to keep pointing out that there are other views (whether emotional or evidence based, and whether valid or based on misunderstandings or lack of information - we all have those!)
Yes, hoping to see Roy P back soon. You might remember that at the last Registration and Standards conference I used the description "those of us who grow hair in the wrong places" to describe the current average demographic of the R&S community...I could have used "those of us who if we are not recovering from an operation are waiting for the next one"! (That said, after my last one I'm finally back up to running 4.5k now, hopefully 5k in a couple of weeks if I don't do anything silly again.)
So bringing us back on track - in the end all of this does come down to a judgement on the part of the assessors and always will, I don't believe you could ever write a spec that precisely defines all engineering roles, so I still stick to my guns that the best way to improve the current situation is to get more practising senior engineers and engineering managers involved in the assessment process - if they haven't got time to volunteer then they are probably the people we want! And if the standards are wrong these people will then have the oomph to drive it - because they're the users, "customers", out there in the real world.
Cheers,
Andy
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