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CEng Application Length

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In the context of a CEng application, from the guidance notes on page 2, it states "The requirement is not to exceed a total of 12 pages for the whole application when printed."


When I went to the review section, the accountability diagram, copies of my certificates and other 'supporting document' evidence such as 'Assessment Summary' were not present in the application pdf when I clicked 'Download Application'. Are these items considered separate? I would have thought 'full application' included those documents too. I see a total of 5 pages in the downloaded document that seems to cover everything else (employment history etc).


Is the 12 page figure the number of pages that should be present when I click the 'Download Application' in the review section, or does it also include certificates, accountability diagram etc? Are the supporting documents sent separately?


Sorry if it's been asked before, but it also says "You should aim to provide roughly 3000 characters as it is unlikely that less will adequately demonstrate your relevant experience."


For most past employment entries I have 3000 or thereabouts. However for my current and primary role which demonstrates the most, I have currently 7000 which is over double the amount requested. Is this excessive to the extent that it would be marked down?

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    Hi Guys


    The reason for introducing the limit in the first place was because before, we were being inundated with applications that were extremely large, difficult to deal with, and very time consuming for the Assessment and Interview panels to deal with. My record was 168 pages which included (if I'd had the printing facilities) A0 and A1 drawings and full blown specification for the electrical services on a new build facility - in no way could all of it have been the candidates own work - I even recognised some of the preliminary clauses in his spec from projects I had worked on - way back e.g: - "all material shall be new and unused..." etc. (word perfect) I remember joking with Donna at the Face to Face meeting, where we dealt with around 30 applications, that I had submitted a price for the job and was expecting the order any day.


    We don't want War and Peace just an explanation of who the candidate is, what they do and how they do it - to show they meet the 17 competences required, if that goes over the limit a bit, I doubt anybody is going to get upset but if a PRA is involved they should have guided the candidate to do a bit of editing.


    Good luck and stay safe - please


    Regards Jim W
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    Hi Guys


    The reason for introducing the limit in the first place was because before, we were being inundated with applications that were extremely large, difficult to deal with, and very time consuming for the Assessment and Interview panels to deal with. My record was 168 pages which included (if I'd had the printing facilities) A0 and A1 drawings and full blown specification for the electrical services on a new build facility - in no way could all of it have been the candidates own work - I even recognised some of the preliminary clauses in his spec from projects I had worked on - way back e.g: - "all material shall be new and unused..." etc. (word perfect) I remember joking with Donna at the Face to Face meeting, where we dealt with around 30 applications, that I had submitted a price for the job and was expecting the order any day.


    We don't want War and Peace just an explanation of who the candidate is, what they do and how they do it - to show they meet the 17 competences required, if that goes over the limit a bit, I doubt anybody is going to get upset but if a PRA is involved they should have guided the candidate to do a bit of editing.


    Good luck and stay safe - please


    Regards Jim W
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