Roy, I anticipated negative comment(s) to my ACEng suggestion; which is why I provided examples from other professions where a two tier system can work successfully. Pilot and Co Pilot is another example. In contrast the relationship between CEng and IEng just doesn't work, as the two titles (under the EC wings) are completely unrelated. You can step up from: AMIEE to MIEE; ACEng to CEng; Associate Professor to Professor. But IEng to CEng is incompatible. IEng would make sense if it came from another, competitive organisation, like the Engineering Association EA (which doesn't exist); but it doesn't belong within the EC. Other professions have shown us how they are successful; in contrast our profession has failed, and we need to learn from others. It would also help if engineers relied less on abbreviations (CEng MIET|FIET) and just use their full title: Chartered Engineer. Maybe then outsiders will not confuse it with mechanic with oily rag. Lastly, I remember in the film Spitfire, a newspaper clip appeared on screen with the name of the designer R.J.Mitchell MICE AMIEE. So an Associate member of the IEE designed the Spitfire that won the battle of Britain. Well how about that!
Roy, I anticipated negative comment(s) to my ACEng suggestion; which is why I provided examples from other professions where a two tier system can work successfully. Pilot and Co Pilot is another example. In contrast the relationship between CEng and IEng just doesn't work, as the two titles (under the EC wings) are completely unrelated. You can step up from: AMIEE to MIEE; ACEng to CEng; Associate Professor to Professor. But IEng to CEng is incompatible. IEng would make sense if it came from another, competitive organisation, like the Engineering Association EA (which doesn't exist); but it doesn't belong within the EC. Other professions have shown us how they are successful; in contrast our profession has failed, and we need to learn from others. It would also help if engineers relied less on abbreviations (CEng MIET|FIET) and just use their full title: Chartered Engineer. Maybe then outsiders will not confuse it with mechanic with oily rag. Lastly, I remember in the film Spitfire, a newspaper clip appeared on screen with the name of the designer R.J.Mitchell MICE AMIEE. So an Associate member of the IEE designed the Spitfire that won the battle of Britain. Well how about that!
