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Time to Knock IEng on the Head

IEng registration in terminal decline
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  • Roy,

    A slight correction to your comments. Ian said "a number of people in the last 7 years" rather than 7 people. He hasn't actually said how many so it could be rather more than 7, or alternatively could be less.

    I think with any system that relies on individual judgement there will be variations. The PRI introduces some measure of control by ensuring there are two interviewers, thereby reducing this variation, but I am convinced that there will still be those who are awarded registration who probably shouldn't be, just as there will be those who should be awarded registration who are declined (and in my role as a PRA this is something that I am aware, at least in my opinion, has also happened). The important thing is to have the measures in place to minimise these occurences, and while I feel the IET system doesn't always work as it should, I still believe it has a surprisingly high success rate.

    I would disagree with doing a straw poll of Chartered Engineers because I disagree that they are all familiar with the standard that should be applied. Many have only studied UK Spec once, at the time that they were preparing their application, so not only are not particularly familiar with it, but what they do remember is of an out of date version (or in the case of Chartered Engineers who gained registration at the time that I did which was pre-UK Spec, may not know it at all). What you need for your straw poll is those who have kept up to date with the development of UK Spec, so those who have become Mentors, PRAs, Industrial Partners, etc., but I would omit those who do the interviews as this would be like marking your own homework.

    Other than that I definitely agree with your comments.

    Alasdair
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  • Roy,

    A slight correction to your comments. Ian said "a number of people in the last 7 years" rather than 7 people. He hasn't actually said how many so it could be rather more than 7, or alternatively could be less.

    I think with any system that relies on individual judgement there will be variations. The PRI introduces some measure of control by ensuring there are two interviewers, thereby reducing this variation, but I am convinced that there will still be those who are awarded registration who probably shouldn't be, just as there will be those who should be awarded registration who are declined (and in my role as a PRA this is something that I am aware, at least in my opinion, has also happened). The important thing is to have the measures in place to minimise these occurences, and while I feel the IET system doesn't always work as it should, I still believe it has a surprisingly high success rate.

    I would disagree with doing a straw poll of Chartered Engineers because I disagree that they are all familiar with the standard that should be applied. Many have only studied UK Spec once, at the time that they were preparing their application, so not only are not particularly familiar with it, but what they do remember is of an out of date version (or in the case of Chartered Engineers who gained registration at the time that I did which was pre-UK Spec, may not know it at all). What you need for your straw poll is those who have kept up to date with the development of UK Spec, so those who have become Mentors, PRAs, Industrial Partners, etc., but I would omit those who do the interviews as this would be like marking your own homework.

    Other than that I definitely agree with your comments.

    Alasdair
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