Maurice, you're absolutely right, and so is Moshe in pointing out that your anecdote is simply that, one instance. But please read on! The real point, as I see it, is that it SHOULDN'T be an occasional anecdotal instance, it should be widespread. There are loads of engineers out there who don't necessarily fit the C.Eng requirements, but who are strong, skilled and committed engineers, who are perfectly suitable for the role they carry out and make tremendous contributions to engineering.
As Moshe has advised, it is for exactly this reason that, in only the past week, those of us who have a positive outlook on I.Eng and who are keen to see it playing its rightful part in the engineering world agreed to create the more positive thread "Time to reinvigorate I.Eng".
Unfortunately, the same old tired, cynical and negative (edit: people - damned predictive text substituted a word I won't repeat embarrassingly - honestly!) have decided to jump into that thread and try to spread their negativity despite pleas from me, for one, to keep their negativity to themselves or for this thread. I'm hoping my last impassioned plea may finally have persuaded then to do thst - in holding my breath so far.
Although some of us did originally agree that we should leave the thread for those who are either already I.Eng or those who may go for it at some time in the future, and I do feel that we need to avoid the old fsrts domination of the thread, I think it does need as much clear support as possible - one of the negative responses was that there were a low number (as yet) of supportive posts on it - despite it being such early days. So do, please, head for that thread and post your anecdote and any supportive thoughts you may have.
i feel that Moshe is right to mention the rest I.Eng was when the IIE existed and was the institute carrying out registration. It's difficult to be certain whether the fall in popularity is directly associated with the IIE's absorption into IET or not, but it has to be a storing possibility and I think the IET really needs to find a way to fight back ongoing that front. It's for all of us to pile up the pressure to make that happen, but add you'll see if you glance at that other thread, one thing we can do is to help ourselves by showing pride in our professional status, all of us, I.Eng and C.Eng alike, Member and Fellow alike, but most especially I.Eng in order to get it back in its rightful position, to walk tall and take every opportunity to proclaim to the world that we are Engineers at whatever level we are and that we are proud of it, and make a massive contribution to industry and to society at large. Time to fight back against those who would put us down.
Maurice, you're absolutely right, and so is Moshe in pointing out that your anecdote is simply that, one instance. But please read on! The real point, as I see it, is that it SHOULDN'T be an occasional anecdotal instance, it should be widespread. There are loads of engineers out there who don't necessarily fit the C.Eng requirements, but who are strong, skilled and committed engineers, who are perfectly suitable for the role they carry out and make tremendous contributions to engineering.
As Moshe has advised, it is for exactly this reason that, in only the past week, those of us who have a positive outlook on I.Eng and who are keen to see it playing its rightful part in the engineering world agreed to create the more positive thread "Time to reinvigorate I.Eng".
Unfortunately, the same old tired, cynical and negative (edit: people - damned predictive text substituted a word I won't repeat embarrassingly - honestly!) have decided to jump into that thread and try to spread their negativity despite pleas from me, for one, to keep their negativity to themselves or for this thread. I'm hoping my last impassioned plea may finally have persuaded then to do thst - in holding my breath so far.
Although some of us did originally agree that we should leave the thread for those who are either already I.Eng or those who may go for it at some time in the future, and I do feel that we need to avoid the old fsrts domination of the thread, I think it does need as much clear support as possible - one of the negative responses was that there were a low number (as yet) of supportive posts on it - despite it being such early days. So do, please, head for that thread and post your anecdote and any supportive thoughts you may have.
i feel that Moshe is right to mention the rest I.Eng was when the IIE existed and was the institute carrying out registration. It's difficult to be certain whether the fall in popularity is directly associated with the IIE's absorption into IET or not, but it has to be a storing possibility and I think the IET really needs to find a way to fight back ongoing that front. It's for all of us to pile up the pressure to make that happen, but add you'll see if you glance at that other thread, one thing we can do is to help ourselves by showing pride in our professional status, all of us, I.Eng and C.Eng alike, Member and Fellow alike, but most especially I.Eng in order to get it back in its rightful position, to walk tall and take every opportunity to proclaim to the world that we are Engineers at whatever level we are and that we are proud of it, and make a massive contribution to industry and to society at large. Time to fight back against those who would put us down.
