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ARE CENG AND IENG EQUAL IN STATUS

Can we say that the CEng and IEng be considered equal titles in professional status or IEng is inferior than CEng.

As the Application Form for both CEng and IEng is same.

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0 Former Community Member over 8 years ago in reply to Sparkingchip

Bravo
Kevin,

Both
grades are a foot on the ladder recognition of a PE's competence to
start in a responsible engineering post.

An I
Eng has a solid grounding in industry, codes and practices a MEng C
Eng has a proven practical experience in report writing, advanced
mathemetics and a specialisation now adays an IT programme that
takes up to 18 months to master. both require responsibility and
innovative solutions to problems that arrive.

Note
that innovation is rare today in engineering as codes have to be
respected. I created a document management of the companies
requirements in codes , I catalogued over 2000 codes!

Both I
Eng & C Eng are important on a project and are
complementary.

What we
are seeing on these blogs is a certain attitude of C Engs who want
this grade to be a superior grade showing a mid career competence
to engineer. I Eng and C Eng are only the first responsibility
grades. (L + M + a short experience).

Taking
my career, I have never worked in what I first studied.

What I
learnt was how to be responsible, how to respect my peer
Technologists, Scientists, Engineers and Technicians and how to
learn from others.

The Master students I mentored were industrial engineers,
they undertook a project in nuclear dismantling, they got first
jobs in the food industry, car manufacture and accounting. The head
of division was I Eng equivalent, when I worked in Fusion , the UK
Fusion Director was HNC.

The whole UK attitude is out of line with Europe and the
States.

We need to define very quickly what we need to do to recover
the PE registration. - BREXIT will need engineers!

IET has not paid much attention to the PEs who come up
through apprenticeship and HNC. IET has also not helped much with
BSc qualified PEs aiming at C Eng grade.

As people on this blog have statedthat there are 90% or
more I Eng type PEs not joining PEIs . Perhaps we should call IET
& EC UK for the statistics and then get to task in making our
PEI of interest to non registered Professional Engineers.

People are mindful of their own careers in making decisions.
Many C Eng see their registration as a social status and not as a
ticket to advancement in engineering.

I've done my bit in engineering, I will try and give
something back to the next generation of PEs. I was in the team
that started ITEME, Incorporated Engineer and the amalgamation of
Engineers & Technologists that led to the true E&T
Institute IIE.

engineering can be fun, lets sell the story to all new
PEs.

Good luck,

John Gowman. MIET

* ITEME C 1G 293 Parts 1, 2, 3, Electrical endorsement
+

* IEng BSc (HNC)

*BA - 5 years studies in new subjects - mathematics &
materials science

*Ingénieur
Chercheur with a taught master and Monologue- Master approved
by a top UK Engineering University.

C Eng refused 5 times (did not request C Eng IET as my
prospective employer did not recognise IET)

I could be C Eng twice and Eur Ing ( i'ma bilingual) but the
UK system failed me - no sponsors.
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