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ARE CENG AND IENG EQUAL IN STATUS

Can we say that the CEng and IEng be considered equal titles in professional status or IEng is inferior than CEng.

As the Application Form for both CEng and IEng is same.
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  • John Gowman:







    An I Eng has a solid grounding in industry, codes and practices a MEng C Eng has a proven practical experience in report writing, advanced mathemetics and a specialisation now adays an IT programme that takes up to 18 months to master. both require responsibility and innovative solutions to problems that arrive.


     



    Sorry, I have to disagree here. I have a solid grounding in industry, codes and practices, I do not have an MEng, I am not (and never have been) very good at advanced mathematics. I am a CEng. (And if I was to reapply now would still qualify.) Let's see why below...

     



    Note that innovation is rare today in engineering as codes have to be respected. I created a document management of the companies requirements in codes , I catalogued over 2000 codes! 


    Completely disagree again with this very strange statement. (Reminds me of that famous apocryphal quote from the 1890s "Everything that can be invented has been invented".)  Take a simple example: there are no codes of practice yet for fully automated vehicles, people are busy writing them. I work in safety engineering for the rail industry, having worked in innovation in the rail industry for many years. If you travel on (say) Thameslink your safety is in the hands of SIL4 signalling equipment for which, at the time, no exact code of practice existed. We developed the equipment, developed the safety argument, and I now sit on the industry committee that is producing the code of practice for this equipment that already exists. (This CoP will then cover future installations.)


    So the example I always use to distinguish between IEng and CEng is: IEngs know the CoP, know how to apply them, know their limitations, and can apply them in sitauations they haven't come across before. CEngs write the Codes of Practice!


    I am writing this on a laptop, connected to an external monitor, uploaded over a fibre broadband link, none of which could have been in my home at this power and this level of affordability 10 years ago. Innovation is alive and well. The Codes of Practice just stop it killing us, which is nice. (And mean my monitor works with my laptop, and my latop works with my internet connection...may seem obvious now but some of us remember the 1980s!)

     

    Both I Eng & C Eng are important on a project and are complementary.





    Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

     



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  • John Gowman:







    An I Eng has a solid grounding in industry, codes and practices a MEng C Eng has a proven practical experience in report writing, advanced mathemetics and a specialisation now adays an IT programme that takes up to 18 months to master. both require responsibility and innovative solutions to problems that arrive.


     



    Sorry, I have to disagree here. I have a solid grounding in industry, codes and practices, I do not have an MEng, I am not (and never have been) very good at advanced mathematics. I am a CEng. (And if I was to reapply now would still qualify.) Let's see why below...

     



    Note that innovation is rare today in engineering as codes have to be respected. I created a document management of the companies requirements in codes , I catalogued over 2000 codes! 


    Completely disagree again with this very strange statement. (Reminds me of that famous apocryphal quote from the 1890s "Everything that can be invented has been invented".)  Take a simple example: there are no codes of practice yet for fully automated vehicles, people are busy writing them. I work in safety engineering for the rail industry, having worked in innovation in the rail industry for many years. If you travel on (say) Thameslink your safety is in the hands of SIL4 signalling equipment for which, at the time, no exact code of practice existed. We developed the equipment, developed the safety argument, and I now sit on the industry committee that is producing the code of practice for this equipment that already exists. (This CoP will then cover future installations.)


    So the example I always use to distinguish between IEng and CEng is: IEngs know the CoP, know how to apply them, know their limitations, and can apply them in sitauations they haven't come across before. CEngs write the Codes of Practice!


    I am writing this on a laptop, connected to an external monitor, uploaded over a fibre broadband link, none of which could have been in my home at this power and this level of affordability 10 years ago. Innovation is alive and well. The Codes of Practice just stop it killing us, which is nice. (And mean my monitor works with my laptop, and my latop works with my internet connection...may seem obvious now but some of us remember the 1980s!)

     

    Both I Eng & C Eng are important on a project and are complementary.





    Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

     



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