ARE CENG AND IENG EQUAL IN STATUS

Engineer should have hands on ability to fix something, not only design and management. I agree that the system went wrong. Even the Engineering Council requirements went wrong, too much emphasis on management and communication skills. The practical elements are not sufficient. Engineer should has the ability to fix a machine or lay the cables, like other professional such as medical doctor, the best practitioner are the one has better skill to do operations or Accountants​ are able to make balance sheet, budgets and audits. In addition, medical doctor is able to do or practice all nurse job. Can Engineers perform technicians' job?

Now a lot of professional Engineers are in management position instead of Engineer position.

Also the reform of higher education went wrong globally. In the past, there are Polytechnics that provided practice Engineer course, graduates are able to work in workshop or do welding. Now all change to universities, course are more theory, but very limited workshops or lab works. Academic wise, I cannot see much different between 3 years Engineering degree and 4 years M Engineering. The major difference are in management. I think for Engineer training practical is more important than management, as you can learn management by job and by CPD later on when career progressive​. Therefore, under currently IEng skill, they are all qualified professional Engineers.

Engineer should have hands on ability to fix something, not only design and management. I agree that the system went wrong. Even the Engineering Council requirements went wrong, too much emphasis on management and communication skills. The practical elements are not sufficient. Engineer should has the ability to fix a machine or lay the cables, like other professional such as medical doctor, the best practitioner are the one has better skill to do operations or Accountants​ are able to make balance sheet, budgets and audits. In addition, medical doctor is able to do or practice all nurse job. Can Engineers perform technicians' job?

Now a lot of professional Engineers are in management position instead of Engineer position.

Also the reform of higher education went wrong globally. In the past, there are Polytechnics that provided practice Engineer course, graduates are able to work in workshop or do welding. Now all change to universities, course are more theory, but very limited workshops or lab works. Academic wise, I cannot see much different between 3 years Engineering degree and 4 years M Engineering. The major difference are in management. I think for Engineer training practical is more important than management, as you can learn management by job and by CPD later on when career progressive​. Therefore, under currently IEng skill, they are all qualified professional Engineers.