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Driverless Trains

The March 2017 Issue of E&T carries several articles about driverless cars but why haven't we got driverless mainline trains?


The technical 'problem' should be far simpler to solve than for a road vehicle. The position on the 'road' can be predicted and determined easily with precision. There is essentially no collision problem to solve, that has been done with the existing signalling system.


There is no need for communication with the train, no need for additional infrastructure. All that is needed is to observe and act on the existing fixed signals.


Of course such a basic system can be improved upon to produce a 'super driver' capable of reacting to unplanned obstructions, greasy rails etc.


The human driver is perhaps the last link to be made 'fail-safe' in the railway safety regime. Our efforts to 'improve' the driver-train interface have probably added new problems. Regular signal spacings, standard aspects and driver alerts must surely increase the boredom and inattention factor. An example of this was the Shap Roll-back in August 2010 where a driver correctly observed adverse signals, came to a stop, then allowed the train to roll-back, acknowledging the retreating adverse signals on the way, until the train exceeded 50 mph. Presumably he was half asleep?


I suspect the real 'problem' is a social one, it will be a tragedy if we can't solve that one.

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    I think the fundamental difference we need to consider is the automation of public transport vs. the automation of private transport.


    Personally, I would resist a driverless car unless the law required it. Many people enjoy the ownership and the joy of driving a performance car, for example. There are others who don't really appreciate the machine that they are operating and only care that it gets them from A to B, and perhaps might be more open to driverless cars. This will ultimately be the driver (!) for investment and change.


    With trains you don't really enjoy them. You might enjoy the view out of the window and being able to relax whilst traveling, but you don't get the enjoyment from actually operating the machine. In light of the recent tram accident (OK, not a train but it's public transport and there are some parallels) and the constant threat of industrial action, not to mention the state of Southern Trains, I can see how the public are more open to it, as long as it's safe.
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  • Former Community Member
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    I think the fundamental difference we need to consider is the automation of public transport vs. the automation of private transport.


    Personally, I would resist a driverless car unless the law required it. Many people enjoy the ownership and the joy of driving a performance car, for example. There are others who don't really appreciate the machine that they are operating and only care that it gets them from A to B, and perhaps might be more open to driverless cars. This will ultimately be the driver (!) for investment and change.


    With trains you don't really enjoy them. You might enjoy the view out of the window and being able to relax whilst traveling, but you don't get the enjoyment from actually operating the machine. In light of the recent tram accident (OK, not a train but it's public transport and there are some parallels) and the constant threat of industrial action, not to mention the state of Southern Trains, I can see how the public are more open to it, as long as it's safe.
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