New e-Petition for protecting the Title ( word ) " Engineer " for Professionals .

David Parr:

Sorry, what I meant to say is that the IET are seen by decision makers as a leading voice on Engineering in this country, and anything that raises the profile of engineering can only be good. Looking at the wording of the petition, I personally do not think it is ill-conceived - the "message" is good! However, I don't underestimate the effort required to elevate the perception of engineering, but we must keep on trying.



Surely we don't give up with something we believe in just because it has failed to get anywhere in the past. Engineers should be recognised for what they do, and my belief in this is one reason I'm a PRA.



Best Regards.

David,



Your last sentence is a direct contradiction of your first sentence. Surely you can't be serious in proposing the IET as being a leading voice in the UK and then admit their past failings at the same time. Other than the attainment of the royal charter from the privy council, the IET (and EC) has no tangable evidence of any success that could be considered beneficial to its registered members.



The IET is seen by many as an elite organisation with the process of getting chartered engineer status being comparable to taking part in an arranged marrriage and joining the secret service at the same time; with the PRAs acting as go-between the applicant and the other side; and the long wait followed by the intervew panel followed by another long wait being likened to waiting to hear if one's been enlisted in the forces or not. It has all the appearance of being very hush hush and behind closed doors. Something that's opposite to being open and transparent.



For the hard headed 10% this is seen as worth it; but for the rest of the engineering population (who are just as well qualified and experienced) it's not worth the hassle.



Unless the IET and EC simplyfy the process and open up its doors to the 90% of disinterested engineers, the task of seeking protection of the title 'engineer' or having an influencing voice amongsts government circles is quite frankly a futile one.

David Parr:

Sorry, what I meant to say is that the IET are seen by decision makers as a leading voice on Engineering in this country, and anything that raises the profile of engineering can only be good. Looking at the wording of the petition, I personally do not think it is ill-conceived - the "message" is good! However, I don't underestimate the effort required to elevate the perception of engineering, but we must keep on trying.



Surely we don't give up with something we believe in just because it has failed to get anywhere in the past. Engineers should be recognised for what they do, and my belief in this is one reason I'm a PRA.



Best Regards.

David,



Your last sentence is a direct contradiction of your first sentence. Surely you can't be serious in proposing the IET as being a leading voice in the UK and then admit their past failings at the same time. Other than the attainment of the royal charter from the privy council, the IET (and EC) has no tangable evidence of any success that could be considered beneficial to its registered members.



The IET is seen by many as an elite organisation with the process of getting chartered engineer status being comparable to taking part in an arranged marrriage and joining the secret service at the same time; with the PRAs acting as go-between the applicant and the other side; and the long wait followed by the intervew panel followed by another long wait being likened to waiting to hear if one's been enlisted in the forces or not. It has all the appearance of being very hush hush and behind closed doors. Something that's opposite to being open and transparent.



For the hard headed 10% this is seen as worth it; but for the rest of the engineering population (who are just as well qualified and experienced) it's not worth the hassle.



Unless the IET and EC simplyfy the process and open up its doors to the 90% of disinterested engineers, the task of seeking protection of the title 'engineer' or having an influencing voice amongsts government circles is quite frankly a futile one.