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U.K. ENGINEERING 2016 REPORT

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​I have noted in another discussion, several comments of my own, but there seems to be a lack of interest or it takes too long to read and digest the report.

​Apart from Roy's original comments and direction to be able to read the report, it would be great to find out if IMechE, ICE and the IET have had any official comments on the report and if not, when can we expect any.?


​Daniel


P.S. Just had to get away from CEng v IEng status discussion.
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    Peter
    Miller 

    Yes I Eng is dead it
    is a degrading title.

    So is CEng a
    superfluos regime of no value to engineering.



    There is a huge
    majority of IEng type PEs outside of PEIs  - in the UK.



    We need a total
    rethink about what engineering & the UK needs.



    CEngs need to get
    their heads out of the sand.



    Europe and
    the rest of the world have applied the UK imposed system of LMD.
    But the UK still hangs on to Honours degrees, which are not
    respected outside of the UK. This I know from the unfortunate
    European students that go to UK Universities for Licence (Three
    years university -BA or BSc) take Honours degrees and then find
    them selves blocked from master degrees in Europe. 



    The UK
    needs to define what it wants from further education and technology
    training. - The Government (now dismissed due to BREXIT) had
    started a Three Grade University coordinated Apprentice scheme -see
    E&T April 2017)

    The ECUK
    is addressing this problem , but is controlled by PEIs . it is the
    PEI & CEng out of date protectionism that needs to be
    resolved.



    If IET
     continues with this CEng is lord and best attitude, it will
    quickly collapse.

    I see that
    the Council and Board is out of line with IET bloggers, but the
    Board & Council up hold the IET constitution which sees IET
    open and equal to all grades of PEs Technologists and interested
    Scientists of all genders (I see no females on this blog!) and all
    disciplines.



    If IET and
    other PEIs do not meet the needs of up and comming PEs then it will
    just very quickly collapse.



    I see the
    attitude on this blog isolated from reality and from the rest of
    the World.



    J Gowman
    MIET



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