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U.K. ENGINEERING 2016 REPORT

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​I have noted in another discussion, several comments of my own, but there seems to be a lack of interest or it takes too long to read and digest the report.

​Apart from Roy's original comments and direction to be able to read the report, it would be great to find out if IMechE, ICE and the IET have had any official comments on the report and if not, when can we expect any.?


​Daniel


P.S. Just had to get away from CEng v IEng status discussion.
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    John,


    I'm actually not in UK and don't have a right to tell UK how to handle Engineering.

    As a member of PEI's, I don't think PEI restrict as you mentioned in your post.

    The PEI' accredit/asses based on requirements and standards set by the EngC UK or ECUK.

    The PEI's first and foremost are learning societies for me. They are not political etc.Their role expanded and in my professional life they played important role.

    As to CEng being pinnacle of the Engineering professional its the tradition and standard set in UK. I'm respectful of this tradition.

    The same as Chartered Accountants and other Chartered professionals that are the pinnacle of the profession.

    The system is not perfect, and the report is addressing important issues but in my humble view its a good system.

    Again I'm not in UK so my opinion is as international member. We exchange opinions and ideas.

    At work place there is even ground, one has to prove themselves and no post nominals will help if a person is not performing (unless there is something difficult, illness or loss of a loved one or other life event etc).

    And yes there is hierarchy. You have officers of different ranks yet they are all officers but some officers are in higher rank and called Superior officer.

    A person can work on becoming superior officer all the way to being generalist or General.

    And there are in Academic world Ph.D's who view CEng as basic standard.

    I think the employers want Engineers Specialists who are cross functional and versatile beyond their specialization or have multiple areas of specialization.


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    John,


    I'm actually not in UK and don't have a right to tell UK how to handle Engineering.

    As a member of PEI's, I don't think PEI restrict as you mentioned in your post.

    The PEI' accredit/asses based on requirements and standards set by the EngC UK or ECUK.

    The PEI's first and foremost are learning societies for me. They are not political etc.Their role expanded and in my professional life they played important role.

    As to CEng being pinnacle of the Engineering professional its the tradition and standard set in UK. I'm respectful of this tradition.

    The same as Chartered Accountants and other Chartered professionals that are the pinnacle of the profession.

    The system is not perfect, and the report is addressing important issues but in my humble view its a good system.

    Again I'm not in UK so my opinion is as international member. We exchange opinions and ideas.

    At work place there is even ground, one has to prove themselves and no post nominals will help if a person is not performing (unless there is something difficult, illness or loss of a loved one or other life event etc).

    And yes there is hierarchy. You have officers of different ranks yet they are all officers but some officers are in higher rank and called Superior officer.

    A person can work on becoming superior officer all the way to being generalist or General.

    And there are in Academic world Ph.D's who view CEng as basic standard.

    I think the employers want Engineers Specialists who are cross functional and versatile beyond their specialization or have multiple areas of specialization.


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