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U.K. ENGINEERING 2016 REPORT

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​I have noted in another discussion, several comments of my own, but there seems to be a lack of interest or it takes too long to read and digest the report.

​Apart from Roy's original comments and direction to be able to read the report, it would be great to find out if IMechE, ICE and the IET have had any official comments on the report and if not, when can we expect any.?


​Daniel


P.S. Just had to get away from CEng v IEng status discussion.
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    I always liked the formula
    Professional = Education + Training + Experience.   It allows for having balance between the variables in the formula.

    I also ran in to very strong opposition especially in USA to licensing professionals who are not degreed, not only degree is required but a graduation from from professionally accredited program by ABET.

    Then two exams FE recommended during final year or soon after earning BSc Eng degree followed at some point by PE exam.


    The opponents of non degree rout state that professional engineers have to have science education such as high math for engineers, and other important subjects that it is unacceptable 

    for the Professional Engineer to not have proper education, state of Jew Jersey now requires Masters degree  level for registration.

    Most countries require Engineers to be university/Institute graduates.

    Its interesting that for work visa in USA the government will accept 3 years of appropriate experience as equal to 1 year at the university.

    ACE long time ego declared that it doesn't mater where one learn, be it library, work place or formal classroom if one can prove it then they can have the credit for it.

    France is addressing this issue by the VAE law, many universities in France can form Jury and award partial or full degree based on portfolio assessment APL.

    Previous education, training and experience are evaluated.

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  • Former Community Member
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    I always liked the formula
    Professional = Education + Training + Experience.   It allows for having balance between the variables in the formula.

    I also ran in to very strong opposition especially in USA to licensing professionals who are not degreed, not only degree is required but a graduation from from professionally accredited program by ABET.

    Then two exams FE recommended during final year or soon after earning BSc Eng degree followed at some point by PE exam.


    The opponents of non degree rout state that professional engineers have to have science education such as high math for engineers, and other important subjects that it is unacceptable 

    for the Professional Engineer to not have proper education, state of Jew Jersey now requires Masters degree  level for registration.

    Most countries require Engineers to be university/Institute graduates.

    Its interesting that for work visa in USA the government will accept 3 years of appropriate experience as equal to 1 year at the university.

    ACE long time ego declared that it doesn't mater where one learn, be it library, work place or formal classroom if one can prove it then they can have the credit for it.

    France is addressing this issue by the VAE law, many universities in France can form Jury and award partial or full degree based on portfolio assessment APL.

    Previous education, training and experience are evaluated.

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