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U.K. ENGINEERING 2016 REPORT

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​I have noted in another discussion, several comments of my own, but there seems to be a lack of interest or it takes too long to read and digest the report.

​Apart from Roy's original comments and direction to be able to read the report, it would be great to find out if IMechE, ICE and the IET have had any official comments on the report and if not, when can we expect any.?


​Daniel


P.S. Just had to get away from CEng v IEng status discussion.
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    What then is the future of Incorporated Engineers? I looked at the ABET site which had details on the various 'Accords.' I live in the US. Under the Washington Accord application I came to a standstill twice. Firstly, City and Guilds is not an educational option. Secondly, if your qualification was awarded before the document was signed(2002) you could not apply anyway. IEng was not an option either - only a recognised degree.


    At one of my jobs here, the Engineering manager commented to me once: "Anthony, only you and a Chinese girl who used to work here ever do any calculations." I suppose the degreed engineers did not need to. Another boss who was un-degreed and very Southern, distrusted Yankees and was completely at a loss with me(a white African) had me calculate the SFL of a wooden mezzanine floor. I had the numbers checked by a friend in the UK who said I was a bit conservative. The numbers were thrown out because my leader did not believe them!


    As I have pointed out on previous posts, recruiting software filters out applicants based on qualifications required versus those listed. IEng is an afterthought(in the UK) and a non-starter here.


    If things change dramatically will I(and other non-degreed IEngs) be 'grand-fathered' in or given the boot(thanks for your subs for the last 20 odd-years)? I would think the IET would be going out of its way to help its members, even if for purely mercenary reasons. Mr.Waserman's information on a CGLI graduateship(as a B.Eng equivalent) being awarded to IEngs until 2013 still sticks in my craw as I think the IET should have been advertising this information.
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    What then is the future of Incorporated Engineers? I looked at the ABET site which had details on the various 'Accords.' I live in the US. Under the Washington Accord application I came to a standstill twice. Firstly, City and Guilds is not an educational option. Secondly, if your qualification was awarded before the document was signed(2002) you could not apply anyway. IEng was not an option either - only a recognised degree.


    At one of my jobs here, the Engineering manager commented to me once: "Anthony, only you and a Chinese girl who used to work here ever do any calculations." I suppose the degreed engineers did not need to. Another boss who was un-degreed and very Southern, distrusted Yankees and was completely at a loss with me(a white African) had me calculate the SFL of a wooden mezzanine floor. I had the numbers checked by a friend in the UK who said I was a bit conservative. The numbers were thrown out because my leader did not believe them!


    As I have pointed out on previous posts, recruiting software filters out applicants based on qualifications required versus those listed. IEng is an afterthought(in the UK) and a non-starter here.


    If things change dramatically will I(and other non-degreed IEngs) be 'grand-fathered' in or given the boot(thanks for your subs for the last 20 odd-years)? I would think the IET would be going out of its way to help its members, even if for purely mercenary reasons. Mr.Waserman's information on a CGLI graduateship(as a B.Eng equivalent) being awarded to IEngs until 2013 still sticks in my craw as I think the IET should have been advertising this information.
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