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U.K. ENGINEERING 2016 REPORT

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​I have noted in another discussion, several comments of my own, but there seems to be a lack of interest or it takes too long to read and digest the report.

​Apart from Roy's original comments and direction to be able to read the report, it would be great to find out if IMechE, ICE and the IET have had any official comments on the report and if not, when can we expect any.?


​Daniel


P.S. Just had to get away from CEng v IEng status discussion.
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    Condolences for the loss of life, It is believed virtually all the residents on the top three floors perished in the devastating fire.

    One woman who lived in the flats said she was woken by a frantic neighbor who said a fire had started in his flat. Some eye witnesses have said a faulty fridge was what started the fire in Grenfell Tower, near Latimer Road Station.


    Panels designed to improve energy efficiency were fitted to the block in a £9million refurb completed in May last year, ordered by the firm that manages the tower.
    But they were filled with foam insulation/cladding that “went up like matchsticks” in the blaze.

    The question is to the management company if the allegations are correct how the material for insulation foam was selected and approved?

    Another question are they in the UK obligated to have the approval of Chartered Building Engineer or a Chartered Engineer or "Safety Engineer"  in the materials selection and use? If the foam or the cladding was illegal to use in the UK then who is responsible for the selection of it for this building?
     


    Are there fire codes to follow? In the USA for example, there is an approval from fire martial inspection team or inspector is required.

    Even if they consulted a professional engineer, are they obligated to use the advice or instructions?

    Was this a conspired criminal act based on greed to make a profit by using the cheap illegal material, negligence or ignorant incompetence?


    I read the that in their defense the subcontractors who performed the work say that use of the materials is entirely legal and complies with all current building regulations.


    And experts say the cladding now covers thousands of homes and offices across Britain. which means if that cladding complies with building regulations, there’s something wrong with the building regulations

    BTW it's hard to believe that fridge exploded.  I wonder if the investigation will uncover that something else caused the fire in that flat.






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    Condolences for the loss of life, It is believed virtually all the residents on the top three floors perished in the devastating fire.

    One woman who lived in the flats said she was woken by a frantic neighbor who said a fire had started in his flat. Some eye witnesses have said a faulty fridge was what started the fire in Grenfell Tower, near Latimer Road Station.


    Panels designed to improve energy efficiency were fitted to the block in a £9million refurb completed in May last year, ordered by the firm that manages the tower.
    But they were filled with foam insulation/cladding that “went up like matchsticks” in the blaze.

    The question is to the management company if the allegations are correct how the material for insulation foam was selected and approved?

    Another question are they in the UK obligated to have the approval of Chartered Building Engineer or a Chartered Engineer or "Safety Engineer"  in the materials selection and use? If the foam or the cladding was illegal to use in the UK then who is responsible for the selection of it for this building?
     


    Are there fire codes to follow? In the USA for example, there is an approval from fire martial inspection team or inspector is required.

    Even if they consulted a professional engineer, are they obligated to use the advice or instructions?

    Was this a conspired criminal act based on greed to make a profit by using the cheap illegal material, negligence or ignorant incompetence?


    I read the that in their defense the subcontractors who performed the work say that use of the materials is entirely legal and complies with all current building regulations.


    And experts say the cladding now covers thousands of homes and offices across Britain. which means if that cladding complies with building regulations, there’s something wrong with the building regulations

    BTW it's hard to believe that fridge exploded.  I wonder if the investigation will uncover that something else caused the fire in that flat.






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