Moshe Waserman:
The report also deals with formation, training and education of current and future Engineers.
It mentioned that current trends are such that require Engineers to be much more versatile and cross functional.
Mechanical Engineers are expected to be Electrical and Electronics Engineers as well and at times vice verse.
The single specialization can be advantage but also disadvantage in rapidly evolving High Tech.,
Employers need to see value added when they hire IEng or any other registered Engineer.
PEI membership and professional registration offers such value and some employers value it, this is why I see job adds that require an Engineer to be CEng or IEng.
But in UK out of some 3,000000 Engineers only 220,000 approximately are registered.
This sends message that millions of Engineers in UK choose not to register because in their view they can do without it, its not tied to their employment requirement or
some other reasons that makes them not to get PEI membership and EngC registration.
Moshe,
You are going back again to the first Blog.
IET has members who are not inline with HQ policy of an Engineering & Technology Institute for all PEIs.
You claim for recognition of all PE grades, but it appears that you want CEng to be the pinicle leading all other registration grades.
Others in IET want to go back to electrical IT only and at CEng grade.
This report, which I have not fully analysed seems to be an honest evaluation of what is needed in the UK for PEs and PEI registration of PEs at ECUK.
Change is needed.
Are you seriously believing that such stalwart institutions are going to proclaim=
*the END of CEng
* a myriad of PEIs that do not work together
* A register of PEs that are not peer reviewed, not subject to sponsoring
* That do not work with modern apprenticeships
* It is not the old CEng PEI rulers that think that “
There is a strong body of opinion that it no longer serves the best interests of the profession or its members, or engineering employers as clients in the UK or internationally or the interests of the country at large.
Come on this is BREXIT England not modern Europe.
CEng has no value except prestige.
In the UK out of some 3,000000 Engineers only 220,000 approximately are registered. Tthe report said 75%
The questtion is what has IET done since 2006 and what is it doing today to register the first step PE BSc , FEANI equivalent.
Your remark - "some other reasons that makes them not to get PEI membership and EngC registration " needs to be assessed.
I have stated why i did not become CEng IET, there is a good reason why others with the experience and competences do not register.
IT is because PEIs have no professional value except being resrtrictive clubs.
Who cares about titles.
People care about jobs.
J Gowman BA MIET
Moshe Waserman:
The report also deals with formation, training and education of current and future Engineers.
It mentioned that current trends are such that require Engineers to be much more versatile and cross functional.
Mechanical Engineers are expected to be Electrical and Electronics Engineers as well and at times vice verse.
The single specialization can be advantage but also disadvantage in rapidly evolving High Tech.,
Employers need to see value added when they hire IEng or any other registered Engineer.
PEI membership and professional registration offers such value and some employers value it, this is why I see job adds that require an Engineer to be CEng or IEng.
But in UK out of some 3,000000 Engineers only 220,000 approximately are registered.
This sends message that millions of Engineers in UK choose not to register because in their view they can do without it, its not tied to their employment requirement or
some other reasons that makes them not to get PEI membership and EngC registration.
Moshe,
You are going back again to the first Blog.
IET has members who are not inline with HQ policy of an Engineering & Technology Institute for all PEIs.
You claim for recognition of all PE grades, but it appears that you want CEng to be the pinicle leading all other registration grades.
Others in IET want to go back to electrical IT only and at CEng grade.
This report, which I have not fully analysed seems to be an honest evaluation of what is needed in the UK for PEs and PEI registration of PEs at ECUK.
Change is needed.
Are you seriously believing that such stalwart institutions are going to proclaim=
*the END of CEng
* a myriad of PEIs that do not work together
* A register of PEs that are not peer reviewed, not subject to sponsoring
* That do not work with modern apprenticeships
* It is not the old CEng PEI rulers that think that “
There is a strong body of opinion that it no longer serves the best interests of the profession or its members, or engineering employers as clients in the UK or internationally or the interests of the country at large.
Come on this is BREXIT England not modern Europe.
CEng has no value except prestige.
In the UK out of some 3,000000 Engineers only 220,000 approximately are registered. Tthe report said 75%
The questtion is what has IET done since 2006 and what is it doing today to register the first step PE BSc , FEANI equivalent.
Your remark - "some other reasons that makes them not to get PEI membership and EngC registration " needs to be assessed.
I have stated why i did not become CEng IET, there is a good reason why others with the experience and competences do not register.
IT is because PEIs have no professional value except being resrtrictive clubs.
Who cares about titles.
People care about jobs.
J Gowman BA MIET
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