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A new model of high-value engineering education

Following on from the UK Engineering Report 2016 (and the discussion of same in this forum) and the adequacy or not of current efforts to educate and train, and to encourage the registration of our future engineers, I am intrigued about a “new model in technology and engineering” (NMiTE http://www.nmite.org.uk). It is a new University that is to focus on the teaching of engineering.

In a recent press release, it says:  


“At NMiTE we believe that engineering education can be different.
We’re here to unlock the creativity and drive of Britain’s next generation – the Passioneers – the designers and builders, problem solvers and innovators who will shape our future.


We’re establishing a new model of high-value engineering education:


  • Creating a beacon institution to help address the engineering skills shortage that threatens to hobble the UK’s ability to compete globally.

  • With a new approach to learning – based on real-world problem solving and the blending of high quality engineering, design, liberal arts and humanities with communication and employability skills targeted at the growth sectors of the future.

  • Located on a new and different type of campus – designed for inspiration, collaboration and a deep connection to the global community.

  • And reinforced by an innovation ecosystem of global corporations & SME entrepreneurs, coupled with global universities, not just to invest, but to contribute knowledge and expertise – with New Model students at its centre.

We’re shaping an institution to create and deliver 21st century engineers – catalysts for innovation and change – a new model generation of emotionally intelligent entrepreneurs, innovators, employees and leaders for the future."


Two things strike me as very different about this proposition:

  1. Its motto is “no lectures, no exams, no text books” (!). It plans to be very practically-based, largely conducted within real industry.

Apparently, it will also have no departments, no faculties, no tenure, no Council.  Instead, it’ll have “teaching teams designed around the delivery of our unique engineering and Human Interaction curriculum” (developed by an impressive, international, and overwhelmingly academic array of advisors and partners).


  1. It’s located in the city of Hereford (admittedly partly a personal one as a resident of Herefordshire for over 30 years). 

It is a city by virtue of its cathedral but it is one of the smaller cities in the UK with a population of just over 50k, and is in England's first or second most rural county (depending on how you rank it). Hereford’s engineering heritage is largely unremarkable as it is known more for its agricultural and food output (beef, potatoes, strawberries, apples, cider(!), beer, etc.) and of being home to the UK's elite special forces regiments. It has engineering history in munitions production from during WWII and it's current engineering association is with food production, double-glazing, Morgan chassis and JCB cab manufacture, insulation material forming, and that’s largely it. So, not the most obvious choice to base a new Advanced Engineering University then!


The NMiTE project has been described (The Times 6th Sep 2016) as “at worst an intriguing experiment and at best an innovative template that traditional universities might learn from”.

What do you think?


As an aside, I have seen nothing of NMiTE in these forums or indeed on the IET website – yet, apparently (and quite rightly) the IET has been an advisor/contributor/supporter.


As a footnote, I would very much like to reach out and connect with any IET members/fellows that are/have been involved in NMiTE with a view of my getting involved too.
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    Andy Millar:

    John,

    If you want to discuss fusion power please start a new thread.

    Thanks, Andy



    Re: A new model of high-value engineering education
    Posted by Andy Millar on Oct 30, 2017 3:54 pm
    John,

    If you want to discuss fusion power please start a new thread.

    Thanks, Andy

    Andy Millar CEng CMgr IET Mentor / IET PRA uk.linkedin.com/in/millarandy

     

    Ref:
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVElR3REzEg

    Daniel Clery of Science Magazine talks about his book on fusion - 'A Piece of the Sun' 

    • 16 00 MW(Fusion Power) Fusion Power – Fusion Fire

    • ITER will never produce Electrical Power


     

    1. https://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-committees/science-technology/NuclearFusion/NuclearFusionevidence.pdf

    • House of Lords SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY SELECT COMMITTEE Nuclear Fusion Oral and written evidence.  2015
      • House of Lords Commission 2015


    Professor Steven Cowley: No. I think we need fusion later in this century.

    • Prof Steve Cowley said, once we have controlled plasma physics fusion we will call in the engineers to make the steam plant.

    • EngTalks: Future Energy community

    Re: Power or Energy, IET Xmas lecture - Fusion Confusion Power or Energy

     
    Re: A new model of high-value engineering education
    Posted by Andy Millar on Oct 30, 2017 2:32 pm
    P.S. If anyone doesn't know who Steven Cowley is, I'd strongly recommend listening to the interview with him that forms the 10th October episode of BBC Radio 4's "The Life Scientific" www.bbc.co.uk/.../b097918v (apologies, probably not available for non-UK readers). He's a very interesting and inspirational speaker, and it includes a neat summary of fusion research. Sorry Roy, I didn't mean to interrupt your discussion - we happened to post at the same time - just trying to get some balance in!
    Andy Millar CEng CMgr IET Mentor / IET PRA uk.linkedin.com/in/millarandy
     JG He is an excellent sales man and mathematician – He was a collegue of mine, he is not an engineer.

     
    Andy,
    I agree with you.
    I have started a new thread on Fusion and on Power Engineering on Future Energy community, but MIET do not seem to be interested in any subject if it is not career or IT/ Electrical.
    Of the 170K MIET about less than ten are interested in future energy blogs.
    This site is hardly visited: See above Fusion & IET references.
    Please do not confuse S Cowley’s Plasma Physics thermo nuclear Physics research and Future Fusion Energy electrical power plants, for which no engineering design has yet been made.

     
    There is a confusion between Energy & Power, Between MW th and MW El, which Cowley plays upon.
    Also do not confuse the engineers working on Fusion at CCFE and EURATOM JET with Fusion Plasma Theoretical physicists. JET calls on the most competent state of the art engineers available. They have little knowledge or interest in the science of Fusion.

     

    Roy gave a very wise statement when he mentioned bottom up in another context.

    I want MIET to be able to analyse and make their own professional judgements.

    Make a bottom up analysis of Fusion and Electrical generation for yourselves : electricity is produced by electrical generators, generators are powered by a mechanical rotating shaft, this shaft is the horsepower output of a steam turbine. 

    The Fusion vessel contains a thermal gas. This minute mass of gas and the kinetic energy of stray neutrons could be captured to produce steam, to feed a steam (or hot fluid) turbine.

    There is a gap in Fusion technology between Plasma energy and  valid industrial steam production.  This is the FUSION PROJECT TASK. There is no solution, no fuel, no materials and soon no finance for another 120 years of research. We need electrical power now.

    I was nominated engineer in charge at JET as I had saved the project from blocking points on five occasions.

    My career was wrecked by a scientist who refused to follow engineering quality procedures and UK law, He was an EU- Fusion – Diplomat and protected, I was denigrated they sent a false CV of only five lines to all UK nuclear installations.

     

    I want MIET to stop following pie in the Sky E&T non Peer Reviewed –Dan Dare articles and think like engineers. Question and ask ; how, when, how-much?

     

    ITER, ILL, CERN are the best examples of Engineering & Technology with equal national and gender status. This is supposed to be IET’s goal. But like all big projects IET has gone through the first phase; is being modified in the second phase; and will be taken over by staff and CEng Electricals in the third stage.

     

    IET has refused to look into JET anti IET actions I went to JET and had a serious talk with its Chief Engineer and HR; they refused to recruit IET mechanical engineers and all engineers without MSc.

    They even refused to recruit CEng MIET Mechanicals.

    Since my visit and complaint to ECUK they have changed their policy. They also have great difficulty recruiting PEs. See the result below Ref E&T Web Week 48 2017
    Cryogenics Engineer - MASTU

     

    Job Ref: 2312; Permanent Full Time; Culham, Oxfordshire

     
    Knowledge skills and experience
    Essential
    - HNC or degree qualified with previous experience of cryogenic systems

    - Strong cryogenics safety track record

    - Experience of plant control systems including interlocks
    Desirable

    -Experience of Pressure Systems Regulations

    -Experience of training others in cryogenic safety and operation of cryogenic equipment
    Special requirements:

    Experience of running medium to large cryoplants

    JG Fusion engineer are HNC I Had H?C when I was a Lea Engineer at ET (I had an MSc) and took university Fusion subjects later.

     
    Here is the Fake statement:
    Our scientists and engineers are working with partners around the globe to develop fusion as a new source of clean energy for tomorrow`s power stations.

     
    They are not working on Electrical Power Generation from Plasma Physics Fusion energy.

    They cannot, it is not in their domain.

     

    They need to define and construct the DEMO Fusion reactor, first; then analyse the results. If Fusion was to be possible, it could not be operating in a demonstration commercial electrical power plant before 2150.

     
    1. Dan Clery and CCFE give a good rev iew of present day Fusion Ref: YouTUBE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVElR3REzEg

    • They need a nuclear fission power plant to produce Tritium.

    • Tritium is not readily available from sea water, if it was, we would have had Tritium batteries years ago.

    • There are no available materials for a Fusion Reactor.


     

    My team's latest work shows that JET will contaminate the 3000 tons of JET Torus vessel and the inner walls of the TORUS Hall when it produces neutrons.

    My Team has carried out the DAD a nuclear activity analysis of JET. JET dismissed its DAD team for financial reasons - An ostrich attitude.


    So JET recognizes top class Engineers as HNC or BSc, congratulations UKAEA.

     
    Cowley was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS) in 2014. His biography reads;
    Steven Cowley is a leading plasma theorist and currently chief executive officer at the UK Atomic Energy Authority. Much of his research career has been devoted to modelling and understanding plasma turbulence in nuclear fusion, a phenomenon that must be controlled to achieve stable fusion.
    Nuclear fusion will offer future generations a cleaner and safer source of energy and has the potential to meet the majority of the world's energy demands. At present, however, more energy is required to feed the process than can be produced.

     

    JET is leading the UK's participation in ITER, an experimental reactor that is set to make nuclear fusion commercially viable.
    False :

    ITER aims to show that Plasma physics can eventually be controlled, be positive in energy conversion and produce some steam or other hot fluid.

    They have no intention of making any electrical power production, they want to see if they can make exploitable hot fluids.

     

    To me they produce hot air at tax payers’ expenses with no obligation of results.

     

    This is fake science to support an industry that has no mathematical model for electrical power production.

    I just want MIET to be able to analyse and question. Why is IET supporting Fusion - IET President From Fusion University?

    ITER is not a commercial enterprise, it is using EU tax payers’ money, on unsustainable reclamations. A sort of Scientific BREXIT.

    There are other claims such as Lithium batteries from sea water – S Cowley; or Vacuum trains when we cannot even run TGV or UK mainline trains efficiently. Not to mention Mars travel where you will burn your brains out with solar radiation just to carry a few Kilos of payloads.

     

    We have better things to engineer, or do we leave that to the developing world and sit back and culture our titles and read pie in the sky articles not even peer reviewed.

     

    I was called upon to save JET from failure on five occasions, and nominated to Engineer in Charge to prevent rogue scientists making a Chernobyl of Fusion. But that is another story.

     

    Please be critical about what lobbyists tell you.

    With a A new model of high-value engineering education, the next generation of UK engineers will work things out for themselves. Even the most complicated system can be simplified.

     
    John Gowman, BA, MIET

     
    Last post :Ingénieur Chercheur, (retired)
    Authorised to carry out engineering development, research, project management in nuclear installations for an atomic and alternative energy research centre.
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