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Time to create a new professional registration for Engineering Technologists

The number of newly registered incorporated engineers continues to decline. The strategy of the Engineering Council is clearly not aligned to supporting the engineering technologist professional. Given the governments commitment to technical education the IET should create their own professional register to provide a relevant standard. It is obvious the current UKSPEC standard lacks credibility in terms of the IEng grade
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    Andy Millar:

    Just to add emphasise to Roy's point, which I have addressed more fully in another thread, it is perfectly legal for UK employers to insist on CEng if they wish - it would be equally legal for them to insist on a GCSE in Classical Civilisations if they wanted (even if it wasn't relevant to the job).


    I have never met an employer who does insist on CEng (or GCSE Classical Civilisations), because in practice this limits their field of choice of candidates too much. But if John has found one, then that's up to that employer. If they feel they can find good enough candidates by using this selection critieria that's up to them.


    Thanks, Andy




    Andy,

    Re: Time to create a new professional registration for Engineering Technologists



    Posted by Andy Millar on Dec 16, 2017 2:38 pm



    it is perfectly legal for UK employers to insist on CEng if they wish -
    No It is illegal, it is discriminative as confirmed by ECUK what they can ask for is - meeting UK Spec at C Eng leveml or equivalent.

    it would be equally legal for them to insist on a GCSE in Classical Civilisations if they wanted (even if it wasn't relevant to the job).

    I have never met an employer who does insist on CEng   But if John has found one, then that's up to that employer.

    Rolls Royce call for CEng for their EPR Nuclear Engineers.

    UKAEA called for CEng (MI Mech E ) for mechanical or cryogenic posts.

    I was deliberately discriminated against. I went from France to JET to explain that IET IEng were equally qualified (Their Chief Eng was only BSc .

    UKAEA now advertise the same Cryogenic eng post as HNC or BSc - It is worth stiking up for your rights.

    It is not because you do not see that it does not exist.

    Those that discriminated against IEng MIET or CEng MIET were made honorary members IET or MIET IEng & CEng.


    And you accept that?

    Time to create a new professional registration for Engineering Technologists


    No - Time to create a UK register of Professional Engineers HNC, BSc  ++++

     - Time to create an association of PEIs in all disciplines of Engineering & Technology.

     - Time to let PEIs of specific disciplines to concentrate on their basic function of information, communication and promotion of E&T.

     - Time to create a true Institute of Engineering & Technology for all multi-disciplines PEs of all grades and genders of UK base or residence.

     - Time to set IET up as an Electrical & IT PEI only (for Ceng) Call it IET Electro-technique Technologists.


     - Time to get rid of this electrical - IT CEng hegemony pf PEs that are out of touch with E&T.


    Just look at the facts & statistics IET has FAILED its members and its objectives.


    John Gowman BA



    Thanks, Andy


    Andy Millar CEng CMgr IET Mentor / IET PRA uk.linkedin.com/in/millarandy


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