The number of newly registered incorporated engineers continues to decline. The strategy of the Engineering Council is clearly not aligned to supporting the engineering technologist professional. Given the governments commitment to technical education the IET should create their own professional register to provide a relevant standard. It is obvious the current UKSPEC standard lacks credibility in terms of the IEng grade
Fully agree with Moshe's and Roy's posts above ("How can you agree with sometimes contradictory posts?" "Because this is the debate! Every issue has at least two sides.") Just one final point I'd like to make...we do need to be realistic that the outcome from all this might be that actually there is no justification for any professional registration level, including CEng. Personally I don't think that will be the case, but if the IET is going to consider this matter seriously - and I very seriously hope it does - it's got to (in my mind) start from the viewpoint that industry has overwhelmingly rejected all professional registration, as the Uff report has highlighted, and it would be unacceptably arrogant of us to simply state that we're right and they're wrong.
It's a time for listening, understanding, and co-operation between the PEIs and industry. Actually this has been the case for a very long time, but hopefully the Uff report has been a wake-up call.
In the mean time I am very happy to continue to champion the existing professional registration statuses to both candidates and employers, they may not be perfect but I think they're pretty good.
As ever, comments from senior IET volunteers and management would, PLEASE, be welcomed - we may well be griping unnecessarily about things you are already doing!!!
Happy mid-winter holidays (or, for any in the southern hemisphere, happy mid-summer holidays!)
Fully agree with Moshe's and Roy's posts above ("How can you agree with sometimes contradictory posts?" "Because this is the debate! Every issue has at least two sides.") Just one final point I'd like to make...we do need to be realistic that the outcome from all this might be that actually there is no justification for any professional registration level, including CEng. Personally I don't think that will be the case, but if the IET is going to consider this matter seriously - and I very seriously hope it does - it's got to (in my mind) start from the viewpoint that industry has overwhelmingly rejected all professional registration, as the Uff report has highlighted, and it would be unacceptably arrogant of us to simply state that we're right and they're wrong.
It's a time for listening, understanding, and co-operation between the PEIs and industry. Actually this has been the case for a very long time, but hopefully the Uff report has been a wake-up call.
In the mean time I am very happy to continue to champion the existing professional registration statuses to both candidates and employers, they may not be perfect but I think they're pretty good.
As ever, comments from senior IET volunteers and management would, PLEASE, be welcomed - we may well be griping unnecessarily about things you are already doing!!!
Happy mid-winter holidays (or, for any in the southern hemisphere, happy mid-summer holidays!)