Roy, understood! If I can offer you, and other members in similar situation a piece of wisdom; great Mathematicians, Scientists and Engineers are remembered for their great theorems; discoveries, and inventions over centuries. They are world famous, and their achievements are enshrined in textbooks in schools, colleges and universities. They are honoured by way of statues erected in their images. Somewhere in the world, people are mentioning their names on a daily basis. I am talking about greats such as Pythagoras, Euclid, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Michael Faraday, James Clark Maxwell, Isambar Kingdom Brunel, and many more, too much to mention. What is greater about them is that they didn't have the benefits of electronics, computers, Internet, world-wide-web, Google search engine, artifical intelIigence, television, smartphones and tablets, a plethora if application software. By contrast, can you think of any CEng, past or present, that you could say is a truly great engineer, equal to the great names mentioned above? We need to put things into perspective and come to our senses by recognising that we - as engineers - have more in common than some wish to admit. Hope that helps.

Roy, understood! If I can offer you, and other members in similar situation a piece of wisdom; great Mathematicians, Scientists and Engineers are remembered for their great theorems; discoveries, and inventions over centuries. They are world famous, and their achievements are enshrined in textbooks in schools, colleges and universities. They are honoured by way of statues erected in their images. Somewhere in the world, people are mentioning their names on a daily basis. I am talking about greats such as Pythagoras, Euclid, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Michael Faraday, James Clark Maxwell, Isambar Kingdom Brunel, and many more, too much to mention. What is greater about them is that they didn't have the benefits of electronics, computers, Internet, world-wide-web, Google search engine, artifical intelIigence, television, smartphones and tablets, a plethora if application software. By contrast, can you think of any CEng, past or present, that you could say is a truly great engineer, equal to the great names mentioned above? We need to put things into perspective and come to our senses by recognising that we - as engineers - have more in common than some wish to admit. Hope that helps.