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Applying for Ieng or EngTech with HND, and from abroad!

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Afternoon all,


I appreciate this will contain more than one question, so i appreciate if any of them can be adressed.


I am unsure if i should apply for either Ieng or EngTech - i've looked up the achademic requirements for Ieng and the Engineering Council's websites states they only accept HNC/HND's that were completed before September 1999 - i graduated in 2008. However, if my understanding is correct, Ieng is still obtainable even without necessarily meeting the achademic requirements alone, depending upon work experience.


With my HND, ive worked for about 5 years in electrical design, and before that as a manager of a calibration lab - would anyone whos got similar experience or been in a similar position be able to adivse which of the two is most applicable to me?


And if Ieng is the correct option - has anyone done the interview process over Skype as i live abroad (Gibraltar), i can see how an interview is done over a webcam, but not sure how you'd do a power point presentation via Skype.


I greatly appreciate any infomation or advice anyone can give!


Thanks,


Lee.
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    Mr. Lee, you should get in touch with IET professional registration adviser, you will receive a guidance etc.

    You can download the UK-SPEC from Engineering Councils website then compare your competencies against the IEng UK-SPEC.

    It will provide you with a blueprint and a plan for your registration.


    www.engc.org.uk/.../UK-SPEC second edition.pdf


    You may use the tools such as Career Manager that IET provides on the website to record your information the tools organize and store your information in a very helpful way that allows you better manage the registration process.

    www.theiet.org/.../index.cfm


    I had my IEng and CEng professional registration interview over the Skype. In my case, there was no need for power point presentation but may would advice to have it.

    You can always share your PowerPoint file ahead of the interview so the interviewers have a chance to see it and ask questions about it if they choose so.


    HND is a good starting point for many Engineers, it's a valuable credential and also you have an option at some point to top up to BEng degree. 

    Should you decide to register as EngTech it is also great, It is not stopping you from working on IEng registration, in case you need to gain some additional experiences in some UK-SPEC areas but that will be your call and base it on PRA (advisor) after reviewing all of your info. 


    I'm sure members of this forum will provide you with very good advice and guidance, use it as supplemental advise but it's not a replacement for contacting the professional registration adviser. 

    Good luck on your journey to becoming a professionally registered engineer.

     

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    Thanks very much for your help Moshe,


    I've spoken to an adviser this morning who've clarified things. I've got to go through the UK SPEC to see if my experience meets all the points. Once ive gone through the entire SPEC, i'll have to decide if i have a realistic chance of Ieng, or go for EngTech.


    If i may ask, if during your Ieng/Ceng interviews, you were not required to do a presentation (which the Engineering Council states is a mandatory part of the interview), did you have to do something else in place of it? Or do international applicants simply skip this part of the interview?


    Again, thank you very much for your insight, its greatly appreciated.


    Lee.
  • Lee,

     

    A Professional Review Interview is mandatory for IEng, but not for Eng Tech. Although the IET might occasionally need to investigate and verify some aspect of a Technician registration application, including perhaps via a discussion of some kind.

     

    If you look at UK-SPEC, ask yourself the question; do the examples (second column) look like any of the things that I do? Also how for IEng has my learning developed through my work-based and/or other learning? The advisor that you have made contact with should be able to help you calibrate yourself and make the best choice of category to apply for.

     

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    Thanks for your input Roy.


    My plan at present (when ive got time this week) is go through the UK SPEC and see if my experience ticks all sections.


    As for the interview part, the part i was particularly curious about was the presentation part for the Ieng interview - as im over seas i don't see how id be able to present one over Skype/Webcam etc. Although Moshe stated above, that he did not do a presentation during his interviews for both Ieng and Ceng. Is this part of the interview skipped if your doing the interview over Skype because of being over seas?


    Thanks,


    Lee.
  • Lee,

     

    The important thing about the presentation as I see it, is to “give you the floor”.  When a form of video conference is used it changes the dynamic slightly , but there are only two interviewers, so  even in the same room you wouldn’t be “addressing an audience” just “leading into an intimate conversation”.  The “presentation” was introduced by IET a few years ago to reduce the risk of someone being discomforted by an initial line of interviewer's questioning. By presenting first about something technical that you are particularly proud of, hopefully you will be well-prepared, feel confident and will naturally showcase some of the A&B competences, as well as the obvious D1 & D2. 

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    Cheers Roy,


    that makes Moshe's experience more understandable. Im just going of the IETs and Engineering Council's videos about the interviews - and they call include candidates giving what look like power point slide show presentations about a project they've worked on. I was curious as to how you'd do that over Skype. But i suppose this can be done without the visual aids of power point, which makes sense.


    Thanks gents for both your help.


    Lee
  • Lee,

    With regard to people who say they didn't have to give a presentation for their IEng/CEng interview, the probable reason (certainly in my case) is that the presentation was only made part of the interview about 10 years ago so those of us who predate the requirement didn't have to do it.

    Best wishes for a successful application.

    Alasdair
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    Thanks Alasdair,


    That could make more sense, but leaves me open to how do you do it these days over Skype? frown Guess i'll just have to ask one of the advisors at the IET.
  • Lee,

    PowerPoint is not obligatory. If you still want to have slides, I would recommend no more than about five, and these can be emailed in advance and printed off for the interviewers so that given clear numbering you can say "and going on to slide 3" or similar. Just don't get hung up about needing to appear a PowerPoint expert. Some of the best presentations I have seen (admittedly not for PR Interviews) have not needed it. It is what you say that is important, not how well you can put a slide together.

    Alasdair