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C&G Professional Recognition Awards

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Afternoon all,

I've come across, and not found much infomation on the net regarding C&Gs PRAs like LCGI, AfCGI, GCGI and MCGI.


Maybe someone could clear this up for me, but my interpritation of what these are or are supposed to be, is something for people with experience in engineering but without the formal achademic qualifications - awarding a particular award based upon experience which some how corresponds to the type of qualification someone in their job would typically have? So for example, having a GCGI is like having a bachelors degree?


Are such qualifications actually worth having? Are they recognised by industry, or is it more a "buy a title" type situation?


If someone could explain what exactly these really are (and not just marketed as), and what their really worth etc. Sadly C&Gs give very limited info on their site (as per usual).


Lee.
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    Anthony,  GCGI in Engineering was available for the IEng,  LCGI was available for EngTech.

    I thought it was a needed accreditation/recognition even if it's not traditional.

    Things change with the time, the education world changed a lot, many traditional universities offering online degrees making education more accessible to working adults.

    Smaller colleges that used to make living from being nontraditional went out of business because they can't compete with a name recognized leading universities.

    Many initiatives such as edX and Cursera offering university degrees, professional certificates, and certificates in many fields on line.

    I personally think that there shouldn't be non-degreed IEng. Once the standard for IEng registration is achieved and qualifying experience and training of agreed upon a number of years than IEng should be considered also as earned BEng academically.

    Some countries like Germany assign levels to the certifications so State -certified Technician/Engineer is at level 6 on DQF and EQF a Bachelors degree level.

    The EC UK can amend the Royal Charter to indicate Professional BEng and put it on the IEng registration certificate.  That would only show academic level as IEng is much more per UK SPEC.

    For professionals who are applying for a work visa in the USA - Experience and training are counted using the three-for-one rule

    The law recognizes that a person who does not have the required normal academic qualification of a bachelor's degree can reach that level through relevant experience and training in the field. If the person lacks a bachelor's degree, relevant work experience and/or specialized training is counted toward the equivalent of college education using the three-for-one rule. When making a determination whether a foreign national possesses the required academic credentials necessary for an H1B occupation, the USCIS will consider three years of specialized training and/or work experience to be the equivalent of one year of college education.


     


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    Anthony,  GCGI in Engineering was available for the IEng,  LCGI was available for EngTech.

    I thought it was a needed accreditation/recognition even if it's not traditional.

    Things change with the time, the education world changed a lot, many traditional universities offering online degrees making education more accessible to working adults.

    Smaller colleges that used to make living from being nontraditional went out of business because they can't compete with a name recognized leading universities.

    Many initiatives such as edX and Cursera offering university degrees, professional certificates, and certificates in many fields on line.

    I personally think that there shouldn't be non-degreed IEng. Once the standard for IEng registration is achieved and qualifying experience and training of agreed upon a number of years than IEng should be considered also as earned BEng academically.

    Some countries like Germany assign levels to the certifications so State -certified Technician/Engineer is at level 6 on DQF and EQF a Bachelors degree level.

    The EC UK can amend the Royal Charter to indicate Professional BEng and put it on the IEng registration certificate.  That would only show academic level as IEng is much more per UK SPEC.

    For professionals who are applying for a work visa in the USA - Experience and training are counted using the three-for-one rule

    The law recognizes that a person who does not have the required normal academic qualification of a bachelor's degree can reach that level through relevant experience and training in the field. If the person lacks a bachelor's degree, relevant work experience and/or specialized training is counted toward the equivalent of college education using the three-for-one rule. When making a determination whether a foreign national possesses the required academic credentials necessary for an H1B occupation, the USCIS will consider three years of specialized training and/or work experience to be the equivalent of one year of college education.


     


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