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C&G Professional Recognition Awards

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Afternoon all,

I've come across, and not found much infomation on the net regarding C&Gs PRAs like LCGI, AfCGI, GCGI and MCGI.


Maybe someone could clear this up for me, but my interpritation of what these are or are supposed to be, is something for people with experience in engineering but without the formal achademic qualifications - awarding a particular award based upon experience which some how corresponds to the type of qualification someone in their job would typically have? So for example, having a GCGI is like having a bachelors degree?


Are such qualifications actually worth having? Are they recognised by industry, or is it more a "buy a title" type situation?


If someone could explain what exactly these really are (and not just marketed as), and what their really worth etc. Sadly C&Gs give very limited info on their site (as per usual).


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    Moshe/Larkland

    Thanks for highlighting these two universities , both drawn from the more vocational tradition , prior to 1992 known as Polytechnics. Transfer of credit between academic institutions (CATS or APCL in Moshe’s post) is probably quite well known, but the evaluation of “experiential” or “work-based learning” for academic credit (APEL in Moshe’s post) perhaps less so.

    There are actually quite a number of UK universities, who offer some academic credit up front and/or focus learning and assessment on workplace activities, rather than “lectures/library/lab/exam”.  Portsmouth University for example, worked closely with the UK Navy to recognise in-service training and use real projects as a medium for learning and assessment. A group of other universities worked with Engineering Council to develop “Gateways” programmes http://www.engineeringgateways.co.uk/engineering-gateways/Information-For/working-engineers.aspx . There are many other examples of work-based learning being used to develop engineers, such as this innovative high-intensity programme from Wolverhampton University http://courses.wlv.ac.uk/course.asp?code=MA001U31UVD     

    I considered a few years ago the possibility of undertaking a DProf at Middlesex University. It is not too far from where I live and also because of my experience/qualifications in the fields of Industrial Training and Human Resource Development (aka Work Based Learning). However, I decided not to pursue it, partly on the grounds of Return on Investment, since I didn’t envisage pursuing an academic career. A consideration for anyone undertaking an engineering programme may be accreditation https://www.engc.org.uk/acad .  I note that Middlesex has quite a limited current footprint in that area, only involving one of the smallest institutions with an accreditation license.  This isn’t necessarily a negative factor, but a prospective student looking to invest should exercise due diligence. There is a wide choice of universities, too many to list here.       

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    Moshe/Larkland

    Thanks for highlighting these two universities , both drawn from the more vocational tradition , prior to 1992 known as Polytechnics. Transfer of credit between academic institutions (CATS or APCL in Moshe’s post) is probably quite well known, but the evaluation of “experiential” or “work-based learning” for academic credit (APEL in Moshe’s post) perhaps less so.

    There are actually quite a number of UK universities, who offer some academic credit up front and/or focus learning and assessment on workplace activities, rather than “lectures/library/lab/exam”.  Portsmouth University for example, worked closely with the UK Navy to recognise in-service training and use real projects as a medium for learning and assessment. A group of other universities worked with Engineering Council to develop “Gateways” programmes http://www.engineeringgateways.co.uk/engineering-gateways/Information-For/working-engineers.aspx . There are many other examples of work-based learning being used to develop engineers, such as this innovative high-intensity programme from Wolverhampton University http://courses.wlv.ac.uk/course.asp?code=MA001U31UVD     

    I considered a few years ago the possibility of undertaking a DProf at Middlesex University. It is not too far from where I live and also because of my experience/qualifications in the fields of Industrial Training and Human Resource Development (aka Work Based Learning). However, I decided not to pursue it, partly on the grounds of Return on Investment, since I didn’t envisage pursuing an academic career. A consideration for anyone undertaking an engineering programme may be accreditation https://www.engc.org.uk/acad .  I note that Middlesex has quite a limited current footprint in that area, only involving one of the smallest institutions with an accreditation license.  This isn’t necessarily a negative factor, but a prospective student looking to invest should exercise due diligence. There is a wide choice of universities, too many to list here.       

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