Arran Cameron:
Mehmood Birdi:
Unfortunately, the IET and EC don't see 'rank and file' engineers to be part of 'the engineering profession', unless they're on the EC register. They live in their own bubble.
That is the crux of the matter.
It's probably safe to say that the first encounter with the IET for the majority of young people is at the start of the first year of an engineering degree, unless they already come from an engineering background. They attend an inspiring presentation on campus; have a friendly chat with the local IET reps; then sign up as a student member and receive a glossy magazine, without realising what the IET really is and isn't. When they start their career as a rank and file engineer in their early 20s, as the holder of an accredited degree, they continue their IET membership and receive a glossy magazine but CEng is rarely even on the horizon. A couple of years later they begin to wonder what the benefits of IET membership are for a rank and file engineer working in E&T if they are not interested in CEng as it's a fairly pricey club...
IMO trying to reform the IET and the EC is like trying to turn lead into gold. The only credible workable solution is to accept the IET and the EC for what they are and create a new organisation to represent the interests of rank and file engineers who just want a career in E&T and are not interested in CEng. Membership of this new organisation and the IET will not be mutually exclusive - unless the IET prohibits dual membership out of spite!
The new organisation will act more like a guild, or even a pseudo trade union, than the IET of today. It might even by viewed by the IET and the CEng community, or even senior management and university academics, as a bit of a downmarket organisation for the proles of the engineering world. There is a question whether most rank and file engineers who work in E&T and are not interested in CEng consider themselves as professionals or whether they view engineering as a highly skilled trade?
The IET has a near monopoly as a society for engineers who hold accredited qualifications and there is nothing for engineers who do not hold accredited qualifications, factoring out anything run along Masonic lines.
Arran Cameron:
Mehmood Birdi:
Unfortunately, the IET and EC don't see 'rank and file' engineers to be part of 'the engineering profession', unless they're on the EC register. They live in their own bubble.
That is the crux of the matter.
It's probably safe to say that the first encounter with the IET for the majority of young people is at the start of the first year of an engineering degree, unless they already come from an engineering background. They attend an inspiring presentation on campus; have a friendly chat with the local IET reps; then sign up as a student member and receive a glossy magazine, without realising what the IET really is and isn't. When they start their career as a rank and file engineer in their early 20s, as the holder of an accredited degree, they continue their IET membership and receive a glossy magazine but CEng is rarely even on the horizon. A couple of years later they begin to wonder what the benefits of IET membership are for a rank and file engineer working in E&T if they are not interested in CEng as it's a fairly pricey club...
IMO trying to reform the IET and the EC is like trying to turn lead into gold. The only credible workable solution is to accept the IET and the EC for what they are and create a new organisation to represent the interests of rank and file engineers who just want a career in E&T and are not interested in CEng. Membership of this new organisation and the IET will not be mutually exclusive - unless the IET prohibits dual membership out of spite!
The new organisation will act more like a guild, or even a pseudo trade union, than the IET of today. It might even by viewed by the IET and the CEng community, or even senior management and university academics, as a bit of a downmarket organisation for the proles of the engineering world. There is a question whether most rank and file engineers who work in E&T and are not interested in CEng consider themselves as professionals or whether they view engineering as a highly skilled trade?
The IET has a near monopoly as a society for engineers who hold accredited qualifications and there is nothing for engineers who do not hold accredited qualifications, factoring out anything run along Masonic lines.
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