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Jump-starting a car made complicated?

How to start a car with a flat battery using jump leads. I have seen these directions in more than one user's handbook, across various makes.


Assuming both cars have negative battery earthing (not that I assume anything, especially if there is the likes of a Morris Minor involved):
  1. Connect positive of one car to the positive of the other.

  • Connect the negative of the car with the good battery to some convenient point on the engine block of the car with the flat battery. 


No explanation given of why do it this way. It works. But it is not exactly an easy instruction to remember if the handbook is not available. My guess is that the vast majority of motorists simply connect directly to both battery terminals, red to red and black to black, which works perfectly well in all circumstances.


So why connect to the engine block instead of the battery terminal?  I figured out that this might give a lower resistance path on the "jump" circuit by eliminating the resistance in the connection from the battery negative to the earthing point and providing a more-direct path to the starter motor. But this resistance would be very low any way - far less than the resistance in the jump leads.


Any better suggestions, anybody?
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  • Your comment on the alternator half reminds me of an issue I had a few years ago (but only vaguely remember), hopefully someone here will be able to explain this better than I as it's a right pain when it happens: After jump starting a car I found a sensor had died in one of the cars - I think the one I was starting but may be wrong. I found out this was quite common, the inductance of the jump leads allows a voltage spike to be generated on starting which can take out random lumps of electronics. Does this ring any bells with anyone?


    The cure is, where possible, to disconnect the jump leads after charging the battery in the jumpee, although I seem to remember thinking that if that battery was in a fit state to start that car then it would be of low enough internal impedance to stop the problem anyway. 


    I do remember that it would have been cheaper to buy a new battery than what it cost me to replace that sensor!



    On another note, this was all much more fun in the days when some cars were negative earth and some were positive earth. I remember sitting indoors having a cup of tea while waiting for my positive earth Ford Anglia to charge from my dad's negative earth Renault 4 (later mine). On a hill. The handbrake slipped on one of them, it rolled down the hill, the bumpers touched, and there was an awful lot of smoke...fortunately they were very thin (probably home made) jump leads otherwise we could have had two cars with exploded batteries! Ah, we had to make our own entertainment in them days...


    Cheers,


    Andy
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  • Your comment on the alternator half reminds me of an issue I had a few years ago (but only vaguely remember), hopefully someone here will be able to explain this better than I as it's a right pain when it happens: After jump starting a car I found a sensor had died in one of the cars - I think the one I was starting but may be wrong. I found out this was quite common, the inductance of the jump leads allows a voltage spike to be generated on starting which can take out random lumps of electronics. Does this ring any bells with anyone?


    The cure is, where possible, to disconnect the jump leads after charging the battery in the jumpee, although I seem to remember thinking that if that battery was in a fit state to start that car then it would be of low enough internal impedance to stop the problem anyway. 


    I do remember that it would have been cheaper to buy a new battery than what it cost me to replace that sensor!



    On another note, this was all much more fun in the days when some cars were negative earth and some were positive earth. I remember sitting indoors having a cup of tea while waiting for my positive earth Ford Anglia to charge from my dad's negative earth Renault 4 (later mine). On a hill. The handbrake slipped on one of them, it rolled down the hill, the bumpers touched, and there was an awful lot of smoke...fortunately they were very thin (probably home made) jump leads otherwise we could have had two cars with exploded batteries! Ah, we had to make our own entertainment in them days...


    Cheers,


    Andy
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